Politicians use fear to justify wars, Ron Paul says

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"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

 

The guy doesn't stand a chance of getting the GOP nomination because he isn't a controlled neocon hawk like Americas fake mayor giuliani is but Pauls views are admirable and very very accurate.

The guy is Americas last hope, as lorien rightly points out.

 

He is the most honest candidate America has had for years! I really wish he had a chance to become president.
He calls things as they are. He does not fear any lobby. He is truly a man with integrity.

 

But we know that he hasn't a chance.

The disasterous Bush/Clinton dynasty is going to be with us until at least 2017.

 

It's funny because some of his supporters are worried that his principles might undermine the campaign. He's not taking any money from special interests. Only from private citizens. They're also worried that he doesn't pander or dumb down his positions much at the podium.

But I keep telling people, that if he doesn't run honestly, then there is no point in voting for him. He has to do it his way, and he's decided to try to win, and to educate people at the same time. I can live with that. We've already got our next Paul-esque Republican candidate coming for the next election or the one after.

Ron's laying the groundwork for something that will last.

 

Ignoring threats to our country is a slippery slope and dangerous. Thanks for posting this. The willful ignorance of national security and treating it as a conspiracy is really a shame.

You guys might want to tell AGS to stand down as well. Considering his long history of supporting "unsavory types," his endorsement here only serves to undermine RP's message.

 

National security and global interests are two different things. For example, Iran wasn't supposed to have nukes, but we have found out they don't have nukes and have been complying with the UN.

We also found out that they condemned North Korea for having dropped out of the NPT and creating a nuke.

We also found out that the Iranian Supreme Leader issued a fatwa against Nuclear Weapons.

In 2003, the Supreme Leader tried to normalize relations with the US through Switzerland. And what happened? Nothing. We didn't send Condi Rice, we didn't even invite them here to talk.

So national security, and global chess games are two totally different matters. If anyone threatens the US, it's not up to Ron Paul exclusively to decide to retaliate or attack. That's the job of Congress under the Constitution. If they tell him to fight, he decides where to put the troops, how many and when. But he can't declare war on his own, and he shouldn't. It's illegal and unconstitutional.

AGS, STAND DOWN!

 

Personally, I like AGS. But he resorts to personal attacks too often and is way too cynical, and it really drives people away from Paul's message.

<3 you AGS but you gotta be a bit more reasonable bro!

 

I can't stand down buddy.

Not until I get lameass cheerleaders like GTech to get their arses out to Iraq and stand up for the BS that they so willfully support sat in their carpet slippers behind their PCs in the safety and comfort of their own trailor parks.

 

I believe 911 was a conspiracy, haha. It's not crazy. It doesn't require much. Just a -really- shitty person/group of persons

 

Seeing how these neocons are ruining the world with their lies and corruption it is pretty hard not to be cynical mate.

As for personal attacks, that is the very foundation of the DP P&R forum.

 

I would like to thank AGS for turning me on to George Galloway, the greatest debater I have ever heard.

You're alright with me mate.

 

He's a legend mate.

This is his finest hour, the full and uncut Senate hearing where he pwns them big time.

Everything he says about the disaster in Iraq is so true.

Senate Full

Check some of the comments too.

 

Lol funny how a thread has ultimately turned into a one man agenda ....

If AGS is such a thought on all here then he obviously has a lot to say and what he does hits a nerve and home for many ?

But no I dont think he has a chance in getting in , he has too many hater's and general society believes he will not do right for the country but let it all go.

IMO - I think it would be great to see what he can offer and do , but not sure if it is the right thing to do in general...

 

Did you check out his hour long talk at The University of Washington (?). He speaks a lot of truth about what is wrong in the Arab world.

I hope for all of our sakes, you are wrong my friend.

In 4 years, Paul reasonably won't be able to do more than end the war, collapse taxes and end the Federal Reserve (which would make him the busiest 4 year president of all time). Those departments might get kicked about, but 4 years is not enough time to change the world. He's also pretty old, I'm not sure I see him as a two term President, although people who know him say he is quite healthy.

 

Health has not to much to do with it , as hasn't Bush been in and is currently in health problems now?

However it is very optimistic to conclude that by having Paul it is going to eradicate war or minimize it greatly.

That is the thing with Paul he gives many hope and ideal visionary but it is not that easy to succeed at, don't get me wrong the idea is great !

And no doubt Bush has done a lot as well as adjoining leaders to get us all in the mess we are in I doubt that electing Paul is going to change the current situation by much, also if it was to happen it would be done at real slow pace and in that time who knows what else will have accumulated.

 

Its sad that some of Ron's supporters believe this, but I think he is ultimately doing the right thing. It is easy to take money from special interests, but it is much tougher to rely on private citizens. I really hope to see this man in office.

 

If there is one thing you should believe, it's that if Paul became the President (and the Illuminati doesn't assassinate him, j/k) his first day would be setting up withdrawal plans. He's adamant about this. As the POTUS, he has the ability to move troops at his discretion.

And they would be coming home from Taiwan, North Korea, Germany as well.

 

No I didn't. You got a link for that bro?