Arash Kamangir has posted this on his blog asking for any help from bloggers to prevent a mother from being stoned. woman to be stoned we have to stop it
How exactly do you plan on stopping it? Iran doesn't even let it's people on the internet, let alone does the government give a shit what some bloggers have to say. The woman is as good as dead. You can thank islam, the holy religion of peace.
Please contact the United Nations and voice your concern. Write about it on the internet and how it makes you feel. Start a petition online (I think one is being started, can update when I have it) and forward it to the devil himself, ahmadinejad. Does he have any morals at all that he might be able to feel just a little shame over stoning a woman to death? It is weak, I know. I don't know what else to do.
It's nice you're trying and optimistic. The UN idea, that's a joke. They won't even do anything about Darfur, and that's 100's of thousands of people being slaughtered. Far as hitler...I mean Ahmadinejad goes, I think we all know the answer to that.
Yeah, I have been sitting here reading about cases of Iranian stonings all night. There is always a public outcry and people try to help, but ultimately the women are hung or get stoned to death. I just read about a 13 yr old they killed for having sex before marriage. Who is really the immoral one? The little girl for making a mistake or the men who say they must torture and kill her for it? I read that stoning for adultery is mandated by hadith, so it is definately endorsed and approved by the religion of peace. It really makes me sad. I read this, "In a recent letter written in the prison by the 22 year old Kobra Rahmanpur, under the sentence of stoning, states:†I want to live! I am a human being just like you. I do not want to die. However I am now a soulless body in fear of the execution who has forgotten how to laugh and be happy. A lot of people say to me how come your case has been so much publicized but you are still in prison? I have to tell them that I am only steps away from execution. I too like all of you am afraid of dying. Please help me so that this would not be my last letter.†Source I wish there was more I could do.
yeah, public executions and stonings occur throughout muslim countries, i heard of a case of a young girl stoned to death by her family and the local community for using her mobile phone to ring a boy. most of these type of public executions are supposed to send out a warning to women so that they will know their place, and keep to it. not so much to do with religion, more to do with men trying to assert their authority in the guise of religion. absolutely disgusting.
Supposedly, the reason they are doing this is because the teachings of Islam. They justify it because it is written in the hadith. This is a hadith in which a jewish couple was actually sentenced to stoning. The jewish people tried to prevent the stoning by saying that the punishment is not required. Religion of peace won out and the jewish man just tried to use his body to shield the woman while they were being stoned to death. Volume 8, Book 82, Number 809: Narrated Ibn 'Umar: A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. "What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?" They replied, "Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya." 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "O Allah's Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah." The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, "Lift up your hand." Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah's Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn 'Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess. source
Pretty sad. We have one nut defending terrorists in one thread right now, and another singing the praises of the man responsible for this, even using his picture in his avatar. I'd like to pop these nuts in the mouth a few times. There is no excuse for this crap.
This is an incredibly lame and mindless post, but no surprise since it is from you. Dont you know that stonings have been stopped because of pressure from other governments? if you make pressure to your government they can make pressure again. Please try to think before you speak some times, or at least in important issues like this. So you think we just should sit down and dont care about wrong doings in the world? Lazy people like you would do that.
It is disgusting and disturbing to me. In order to try to prevent and stop it though you must 'even though you do not wish to' try to understand why these people do what they do. What other option is there? Trying to force them into having our ways which makes them hate us even further while not preventing what's going on. In Iraq these instances are at an all time high since we 'cough' liberated them. I'm all for stopping it, one of the few instances where even though it might be their custom I wish we could do something to stop it. The question though that is still not answered is how exactly do we stop it?
The Stop Stoning Forever Campaign invites all citizens of the world to contact the Iranian officials by phone and/or fax and ask them to stop the public stoning of Mokarrameh Ebrahimin, the 43 year old mother of three children, and her partner, the father of her 11 year old child. Please note that email may not be effective. Going by this article, there is in some countries citizens that agree and have publicly spoke out and organized "stop Stoning Forever" campaign but once again it is one thing to accept it and another to follow it... These punishments go back and are religious to most so it is like asking them to change faith. Which is very sad and undeniably cruel, so if you find a source that matters and will take hold of your request you can count me in Iran: Amnesty International appeals against planned executions by stoning Date: 06/20/2007 16:15:36 Meydaan Public Statement News Service No: 115 20 June 2007 Amnesty International today made an urgent appeal to the Head of the Judiciary, Ayatollah Shahroudi, to prevent the executions of two people due to be publicly stoned to death tomorrow, 21 June 2007. The two – Mokarrameh Ebrahimi (f) and an unnamed man – are scheduled to be killed in a cemetery in the town of Takestan, Qazvin province. According to activists involved in the ‘Stop Stoning Forever’ campaign in Iran, Mokarrameh Ebrahimi and the unnamed man were sentenced to death after conviction of adultery. Under article 83 of Iran’s Penal Code, execution by stoning is prescribed for adultery committed by a married man or a married woman. Under Iranian law, adultery can only be proved by the testimony of eyewitnesses (the number required varying for different types of adultery), a confession by the defendant (repeated four times), or the judge's "knowledge" that the adultery has taken place. In this case, the basis for the conviction of adultery was the judge’s “knowledgeâ€, apparently on the basis that they had a child together. Mokarrameh Ebrahimi and the unnamed man have been imprisoned for the past 11 years in Choubin prison. Qazvin province. Recently, they reportedly appealed to the Judicial Commission for Amnesty and Clemency to overturn their stoning sentence, but the appeal was rejected. The stoning was then scheduled for 17 June, but is now due to take place on 21 June – in public, and reportedly in the presence of the judge from Branch 1 of the Criminal Court in Takestan. It is reported that he will throw the first stone, following which those present at the public gathering will continuing stoning the two until they are pronounced dead. The pits in which Mokarrameh Ebrahimi and the unnamed man will be placed in order to be stoned are reported to have been dug already in Behesht-e Zahra cemetery in preparation for the executions. Amnesty International is urging the Iranian authorities to intervene immediately to prevent the planned stonings and to commute the death sentences in both cases. The organization opposes the death penalty in all cases as the ultimate cruel, inhuman or degrading punishment. Execution by stoning aggravates the brutality of the death penalty, being specifically designed to increase the victim's suffering since the stones are deliberately chosen to be large enough to cause pain, but not so large as to kill the victim immediately. Amnesty International is also calling on the Iranian government to abolish altogether executions by stoning and to impose a moratorium pending the repeal or amendment of article 83 of the Penal Code All existing sentences of execution by stoning should be commuted. Amnesty International also opposes the criminalization of consensual adult sexual relations conducted in private, and further urges the Iranian authorities to review all relevant legislation with the aim of decriminalizing consensual adult sexual relations conducted in private. BACKGROUND INFORMATION Execution by stoning is prescribed under Iranian law for adultery committed by a married man or a married woman. The Iranian Penal Code is very specific about the manner of execution and types of stones which should be used. Article 102 states that men will be buried up to their waists and women up to their breasts for the purpose of execution by stoning. Article 104 states, with reference to the penalty for adultery, that the stones used should "not be large enough to kill the person by one or two strikes; nor should they should they be so small that they could not be defined as stones". In December 2002 Ayatollah Shahroudi, the Head of the Judiciary, reportedly sent a ruling to judges ordering a moratorium on execution by stoning, pending a decision on a permanent change in the law, which was apparently being considered by the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. However, in September 2003, a law concerning the implementation of certain kinds of penalties, including stoning, was passed, which appeared to undermine this moratorium. Also despite the moratorium, Amnesty International continued to record sentences of stoning being passed, though none of these were known to have been implemented until May 2006, when a woman and a man were reportedly stoned to death. The two victims- Abbas (m) and Mahboubeh (f) were reportedly stoned to death in a cemetery in Mashhad, after being convicted of murdering Mahboubeh’s husband, and of adultery - a charge which carries the penalty of stoning. Part of the cemetery was cordoned off from the public, and more than 100 members of the Revolutionary Guard, and Bassij Forces, who had been invited to attend, reportedly participated in stoning the couple to death. On 21 November 2006, the late Minister of Justice, Jamal Karimi-Rad, denied that stonings were being carried out in Iran, a claim repeated on 8 December 2006 by the Head of the Prisons Organization in Tehran. The campaigners against stoning have since stated in response that there is irrefutable evidence that the Mashhad stoning did indeed occur. In mid-2006, a group of Iranian human rights defenders, mostly women, including activists, journalists and lawyers, began a campaign to abolish stoning, having identified nine women and two men under sentence of death by stoning: Hajieh Esmailvand, Ashraf Kalhori, Parisa, Iran, Khayrieh, Shamameh Ghorbani (also known as Malek), Kobra Najjar, Soghra Mola’i, Fatemeh, Abdollah F., and Najaf. The ‘Stop Stoning Forever’ campaign aims to save the lives of the nine women and two men under sentence of stoning, and to abolish stoning in law and practice. Lawyers in the group undertook to represent them. Since the campaign began, three individuals have been saved from stoning, others have been granted stays of execution, and some of the cases are being reviewed or re-tried. Hajieh Esmailvand was acquitted on 9 December 2006 of the charge of adultery, for which she had been sentenced to stoning, and is now free from prison; Parisa was released on 5 December 2006 after receiving 99 lashes, following a Supreme Court ruling which changed her sentence of execution by stoning to flogging; the stoning sentence of Najaf - Parisa’s husband - was also changed to flogging by the Supreme Court.
I'd like to know how the hell it was video taped especially when there are such punishments for the act. Wouldn't you think they would be careful when attempting to do this? Man I would cover all the angles first!!
I will look at Amnesty International closer, thanks for the lead. I feel very bad about this and even if I am not successful I would still like to try to help.
Yes it is a worth while cause, but very optimistic on your behalf. Still nice to know there is many out there willing to defend regardless of belief or religion. Let me know if you get anywhere by pm .