Ron Paul Needs to Save America

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by aletheides, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #41
    http://www.hinduunity.org/articles/editorials/islamicterror.html

    So what you're trying to convince us all of is that your head is in the sand and that's why to you there is no Islamic terroism in India. You do not define reality. You can claim it doesn't exist all you want but that doesn't bring back the people that were murdered by Islamic terrorists in India. You might as well deny the holocaust because you can't be bothered to read a b-o OK.

    And let's check the date on that...

    Oh, look at that, that article was written even BEFORE 9/11.

    Do I need to help you out with the other countries as well or would you like to educate yourself and come back with a more accurate list of countries NOT under attack by Muslims.

    Ron Paul is a fool. And so is everyone else who thinks Islamic terrorism is an American problem. It's not a foreign policy problem. It's a foreign God policy. Anyone who believes in a God foreign to Islam, is fair game for murder.
     
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  2. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #42
    And here's canada:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Toronto_terrorism_case

    But, hey that doesn't count because they didn't succeed right?
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #43
    Just admiring Kalvin's excellent post above this one. Spot on observations and commentary!

    guerilla, your post reminded me of an old article I had in my bookmarks from many years ago:

    Olympic Games Reflect Sacrifice By the U.S.A.

    If the glass can be half full when trying to compare ron paul's 5 million as a huge success, while other candidates have raised 5-6 times that amount, maybe (for once??) the glass could be half full for America? Many honorable men and women have given their lives so that others can be free. Respecting and honoring that isn't a crime.
     
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  4. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #44
    http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?issue_id=3242

    Nope. No terrorism in Italy either.
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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  7. Absolutus

    Absolutus Peon

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    #47
    Don't believe all you read on the link you posted, because the article don't report all the news.
    Most facts reported especially regarding muslims arrested was to gain popularity by Berlusconi because there was a big movement in Italy against the war.
    Most peoples arrested was liberated because there was any crime.

    You need to analyze the time when these facts occurred because at the time the premier was Berlusconi.
    Berlusconi and his political allies, Bossi from Lega Nord and Fini from Alleanza Nazionale are antimuslim.
    A ministry of Lega Nord declared some weeks ago He used a pig to stop the construction of a Moschea in Lodi and offered to use pigs to stop the construction of other moschea in Italy.

    I live in Italy and until now there was no muslim terrorism in my country.
     
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    muppet Peon

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    #48
    Unfortunately, he is one of those 'who?' candidates..
     
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  9. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #49
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...35757C0A960958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

    Wonder why. The obvious question is "what would Ronald Reagan think of him now?"

    Probably not much. The other issue is where that quote comes from. Nothing comes up on Google that shows the original source.

    There wasn't any or you just weren't aware of it? Apparently some people are still infants that think if they can't see it, it doesn't exist.
     
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    gemini181 Well-Known Member

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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #51
    dumb ass, Russia has been fighting with Muslim separatists for years, plus they were fighting them in Afghanistan for like 10 year except we were on the muslim side then

    you don't even now recent history, I don't think you quite ready to be calling people fools

    Its so obvious the present strategy of occupying Iraq to the "fight them over there"is a fools errand

    Ran Paul appears to be the only candidate who is smart enough to see that
     
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  12. Absolutus

    Absolutus Peon

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    #52
    Fortunately the only terrorism in Italy is Political and is not a lot now.
    Probably 50% of Italians are Infants because only the 49.9% of italians who vote for Berlusconi probably believe there is Islam terrorism in Italy.

    I'm not writing that islam terrorism can't happen in Italy(I hope that never happen), I'm only writing that until now no episodes of terrorism was reported to the public opinion.

    Below are some articles from the 2 biggest and reliable newspaper(Non political) regarding the facts on the article posted about Italy

    http://translate.google.com/transla...007/05_Maggio/28/imam_milano_prosciolto.shtml



    http://translate.google.com/transla...cronaca/cellulaisl/cellulaisl/cellulaisl.html


    http://translate.google.com/transla...zioni/cronaca/islamici/islamici/islamici.html
     
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  13. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #53
    Iraq -> Iran <- Afghanistan.

    Maybe you should ask Miss South Carolina for a map. Might clear up some confusion as to why we're in Iraq.

    And thanks for reminding us all that Russia has problems with terrorism as well. So what, that leaves China, Japan and Mexico from the original list of something like 10 countries "not affected by terrorism." Italy is alledged to have issues but nothing has been blown up yet so apparently some people aren't too worried about it.

    That's special. It's so obvious this is an American problem. How silly of me. Where's my Ron Paul pin?
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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  15. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #55
    From the linked article:

    Boy, looks like 9/11 got to the Chinese as well. What year was that again?
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #56
    Well, you just exposed yourself as Google monkey. India was ruled by the Muslims, and sectarian violence between the Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs have been going on for as long as any living Indian can remember. When the Raj ruled India, people were not forced to convert as fear mongering neocons would have us believe that Islamo-Fascists want to achieve.

    Honestly Kalvin, I expected a lot more knowledge and background on India before you tried to contest my point.

    Geez, Muslims working with Gandhi. Who woulda thunk it?

    Neocons don't bother with accuracy, they're masters of slander.

    Oh yeah, we're in Iraq because Bin Laden/Al Quaida is Sunni, and Iraq and Iran are predominantly Shia, two sects that hate each other more than they hate the West. Are you being intentionally obtuse, because I really thought you were one of the more intelligent posters on this board.

    Keep cheering for the NWO. You'll get better than a pin. You'll start carrying RFID papers. :) It will be interesting when your descendants and mine argue about the next holocaust. I wonder if if they will be neocon statists, or if they will be crying victim. Oh, for want of a crystal ball.
     
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  17. KalvinB

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    #57
    First you claim there is no Islamic terrorism in India, now you admit that there is. Did you intentionally omit information or were you just ignorant until I jogged your memory?

    "Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs… It would have aroused the world and the people of Germany… As it is they succumbed anyway in their millions." - Ghandi

    Who would have thunk? Ghandi was on the side of the Islamic terrorists. I wonder if Ghandi would have preached suicide to his own people.

    You have no clue what I'm talking about do you? Iraq -> Iran <- Afganistan. Get a map.

    Don't you think that if we wanted to neutralize Iran it would have been a good idea to take control of the two major countries that border Iran on either side?

    Once Iran is under control then Sauia Arabia doesn't look too daunting as it's about the same size as Iran. If that ever happens maybe we'll finally have a Middle East that isn't controlled by the barbaric Sharia law.
     
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  18. guerilla

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    #58
    Again, you're being intellectually dishonest Kalvin. Post a quote from me to prove I said that.

    Are you surprised that Gandhi isn't an anti-semite? The man is speaking exactly from his own doctrine and how he lived his life against oppression and ethnic cleansing.

    You may not agree, but he's not a hypocrite, excusing the Nazis or claiming there was no holocaust.
     
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    #59
    How is that quote anything but anti-semetic?

    Show me the quote where he suggests that Hindus should throw themselves off cliffs and succumb to the butcher knife of the Islamic terrorists.

    Are you hiding behind "al quada?" Is that why you think you've been honest about the problem of Islamic terrorism around the world? Are you so ignorant as to think that "al quada" is the only source of Islamic terrorism in the world?

    It's become apparent to me that when the ignorant speak of terrorism they like to use the term "al qaeda." I give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that to you "al qaeda" means "Islamic terrorists" in general. Guess I was wrong.

    That's as retarded as claiming that there is no Nazi terrorism going on in the south simply because the new term is "neo-Nazi."
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #60
    Your paranoia really knows few bounds.

    And that is the only way he can be excused from being an anti-semite?

    Question for you Kalvin, are you a Zionist?

    I wasn't hiding behind Al Queda, the argument was about Al Queda. Being part Indian, I'm far more familiar with Indian Terrorism by sectarian groups than most people. So the question remains, can you provide a quote, or can you provide proof of Al Queda attacks in India? Otherwise, it seems you have lost this argument, likely from zeal, probably through ignorance.
     
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