Muslim punk band - didn't think it was allowed?

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  1. #1
    The article is here muslim punk band - so much of what they are doing like this - "slaps out the song's bass line while viciously slam-dancing with a dude in a woman's burqa." seem so against their religion.

    Thought it was quite the interesting read, especially the part about the female singers.

    I would think they had committed many "off with their head" sins, drinking, smoking, cussing, mixing with girls, etc... lucky for them they live in the states!!!
     
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  2. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #2
    poser......
     
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  3. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    oh, so they are just posers... I see they aren't real punks.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    They get away with it because they are in the US...were it in Iran, off with their heads.
     
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    acash Peon

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    out of a billion, there had to be 1 band:cool:
     
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    #6
    they rocks...
    what do you know about it? none.

    it's their place... they can do whatever they want as long as not againts the law

    the problem is, you think too much....
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I'm impressed! First it was homosexual freedom fighters, now a punk band! Kudos for progress!
     
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    found something you like? :D
     
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  9. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #9
    they rocks? they have rocks? - I think you meant to say "they rock" but with you maybe you meant they have rocks?

    They mention things that are against islam, probably homosexual too, but it doesn't say. I do know that most things considered "western" are against the koran (even if they aren't western, but human - like drugs, alcohol, sex)



    Thank you, I take that as a compliment.
     
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    yes, homosexual, drugs, alcohol, and sex (adultery) against Islam, but I believe it against Christians too...
    *if they not modified it (the bible) again... *
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #11

    Alcohol isn't something Jesus condemned, but getting drunk is. But I was talking about Christians, this band is made up of muslims like you.

    (Do you have an example of this modification? You can copy/paste that one muslim site if you need help, but the problem is they have been debunked because they are clueles... LOL)
     
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    I think this shows how difficult it is to pigeonhole a religion with over a half billion adherents. While no Orthodox cleric would approve of some of the lifestyle issues, the band is obviously identifying with a more generalized, secular, and nationalist interpretation of the religion of their birth.
    May we all find our ideologies so flexible.
    The orthodoxy does not necessarily hold a monoploy on doctrine in any religion, and historical support can be found for virtually any heresy in any of the major faiths. There has always been a golden enlightened age in the history of these faiths that the orthodox don't care to acknowledge...periods of reform and philosophy.
    Islam has had many of these, notably the Sufi movement, which embraced many far-out ideas.
    The problem is that you can't fit these punks in one of your little boxes and they love that the most.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    I am not the one trying to put them in a little box, their religion is very clear on some things. Many die every year for what they are doing, but since they are in a free country, they can do it. You see, I don't have a problem with what they do, they are free to do it, I would prefer all muslims to live like them over what many do live like. At this point they are strapping on bombs, but some of their lyrics reflect the hatred and mindset that could lead up to that.
     
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    amanamission Notable Member

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    I think they are identifying with a nationalist cause based on a sense of kinship and outrage at the many injustices people of Islam have suffered at the hands of foreign powers. The abuse has certainly been mutual, but the vast majority of Muslims do not support extreme violence nor practice. They quite reasonably wish to have sovereignty over the territory where they live.
    As many Christians engage in terrorism over their pet religious issues. Even Buddhists can be quite brutal against Tamil Hindus.
    It's just tiresome to see that the anti-Islam rhetoric and propaganda has clouded the real issue: imperialism and desperate rebels striking back. The religion is a unifying point of rally for some of these groups, because that makes organization easy. Don't read too much into it. Islam contains both respectable and contemptible doctrine, and followers of it generally ignore it unless it is a time to be holy...like most adherents of most religions.
     
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    I think he was implying they weren't real Muslims.

    The members do not define the religion. The books they're supposed to be following do. This band is doing what is expressly forbidden by their religion and they would be killed for it in any country that allows Islam to be practiced unrestrained.

    The only reason Islam appears "peaceful" in western countries is because all the members are forced to behave themselves. This is why there is so much tension between the West and Muslims; they can't fully practice their religion because it goes against civilized laws.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #16
    do mormans really belive that american indians are the lost tribe of israel
    do mormans belive that the only way blacks go to heaven is as slaves
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=7xqNbZKIQUs
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    I don't know what mormans believe, never heard of that group.. :D

    Now mormons - what they believe as far as those 2 questions are concerned - I don't know - and the video wouldn't load at all...

    Maybe you can answer the questions, I would have guessed you were mormon, but you didn't even spell it right.
     
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    Yes to the first question and (if they ever did) not any more to the second. Until the Supreme Court stepped in with discrimination laws in 1978 the LDS church denied the priesthood to blacks. I don't know how that would factor into their salvation.

    With Mormonism there are the canonized books which all doctrine must follow and then there are the uncanonized words of the prophets.

    The uncanonized words can be superceeded by later "prophecy." So there are a number of doctrines that have gone away because of newer prophets saying so. It's an evolving church and in some ways they are getting better. The Catholic church is the same way but possibly to a lesser degree.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    sorry about spelling. you are correct to assume i am not. just came across it and found it intresting. just wanted to know if it is true or not
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqNbZKIQUs
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    So Supreme Court trumped the church's teaching and corrected the prophets?
    by the way how many prophets do they believe in?
    It seems very interesting I never knew much about them?
    What is the relationship to Christianity?
     
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