Hello everyone! I have a problem. I've volunteered to design a website. I did that... it's awesome, my graphics are scaled and optimized, java affects, css style sheets, and a very slick design... the graphic approach fits the organizations marketing plans, it's organized script, clean, etc. They loved it. What I didn't know is that the board members for the project I am volunteering for had already voted in a webmaster... who, of course, isn't familiar with code, html, scripts, nothing...and strongly defends the use of Frontpage! with single side frames, no graphics, and lots of text. They don't want to loose their webmaster, but love my design... but I don't want to be their "bit#!" the fix his "sh@@"... (please don't delete this post!!) In other's experience, is it easy to modify Frontpage sites to accomidate graphical layouts/changes and controls (his proposed site is crap and up) or do I need to defend myself a little more as someone familiar with stylesheets, java, html, and code. What kind of issues am I looking at if I try to alter his frontpage work?
I think any real web programmer realizes the dangers of using GUI editors like Frontpage or Dreamweaver. The code view assistance is helpful but I'm sure this new web designer will eventually run into problems as your code will slowly get more and more jumbled. Then again, maybe he/she is an amazing Frontpage artist and can work miracles. I guess it just depends on their experience. I'd stick up for my work if I felt that it was in major jeopardy. Good luck!
Well, If you handover some thing like Dreamweaver to him, I think he will in no time be able to use it. That's good for the company as well.
Yah... dreamweavers pretty easy... he has a very limited knowledge of code / tables / text formatting, etc. Don't think it will help much... oh well...
i think you should defend your design and say you are the WM or they cant use your design...afterall you volunteered. (for free?)
bingo. These people are laughing at Brian for doing it for free. and people like him who do it for free cause all of the rest of us to suffer by giving cheap clowns a reason to under value our knowledge. Tell them to get lost Brian. Ask them if they are familiar with the term "cost of doing business". Ask them when's the last time they did something for free.
Yes.. if they are doing business, then they should expect business, right? Why do they expect to get something for free?
I feel where you are coming from. I am a Frontpage user, but know its and my limitations. I volunteer for and designed the web page for our local animal shelter and now a others want to get their copy of Frontpage and update the site. There are a couple of girls I trust there that are going to start helping, but its not for everyone with a computer and its not as easy as a newsletter. I have backup for what I anticipate will be many future "point of no return" hack ups
hey rhamm, don't you find it insulting that they think it's so easy that they could just by FrontPage and take over the site? I've run into this many times, and either they are back on the phone to me, or they hack the site apart from a visual standpoint with no idea of proper visual design from the mistakes they make, and then they just mysteriously live with it. My portfolio is a mess because of customers ruining what I did for them. I always seem to run into the "we want to manage it ourselves" cheap people. Now, when i run into people like this, i show them Yahoo site builder and walk away because it's not even worth the time of even meeting with them. You get what you pay for. That's always true no matter what we are talking about.
Thats where the backup comes in handy. Usually after they hack it up once, they learn and never want to touch it again , its unfortunate that most do not understand and "Have to try it themselves" at least once
I'm actually a civil designer primarily, the program I designed the site for is is revitalizing the downtown I live in, my primary focus. I volunteered because it fattens up my resume, and being primarily with land development and the current recession; I'd have to say it's a very good thing I did. But the other guy... it seems typical in business for people to win over clients by fluffing up their capabilities; next thing you know, they are fired and the clients are really screwed... people never learn...