Barak says Israel is 'close' to Gaza operation

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  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #21
    The Israelis withdrew from Gaza and look what happened. Gaza turned into a terrorist entity attacking Israel every day.
     
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    judetheobscure Peon

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    #22
    this conflict, like all conflicts, is a dance to the death, israel withdraw, then israel make incursions, palestinians agree a ceasefirel, then palestinians open fire again. the only thing predictable is the sorry loss of life on both sides.
    israelis believe they have the strongest argument, but palestinians believe the same thing.
    however, relishing military action against a people who for the most part are just ordinary citizens the same as you or me is never a good thing.
    kicking butt translates as killing innocent people as well as hamas fighters, and i think this war weary world has had enough of kicking butt!
     
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  3. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #23
    The Palestinians in Gaza elected the Hamas terrorist organization

    If you elect Hitler to represent you and you start getting bombed then who is to blame
     
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  4. judetheobscure

    judetheobscure Peon

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    #24
    hamas is not just a terrorist group of people who just want to kick israel's butt, hamas has a political wing and also an associated charity that is reponsible for building many of the schools and hospitals in an area that is impoverished, hence their popularity with the ordinary people.
    in northern ireland there is an important parallel, the IRA a terrorist group had a political wing SinnFein that is now, after the peace process, a recognised political party in northern ireland.
    the palestinian people were not voting for terrorism but for local amenities that are sadly lacking in that part of the world. in fact ordinary palestinians actually came out and protested about the ongoing feud between hamas fighters and alfatah fighters, because they want peace just as much as the next person.
     
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  5. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #25
    Hamas leadership in Syria is sending more terrorist forces via Egypt

    Israel on Monday issued a message to Egypt over its decision to allow at least 80 Hamas militants to cross into Gaza last Sunday, saying that some of the Islamic group members have recently undergone extensive military training in Iran and Syria, security sources said.

    Sources in the defense establishment said Monday that the entry of well-trained extremists into Gaza is just another chapter in Hamas' growing strength. They charged Egypt of not doing enough to block this.

    According to the sources, dozens of experts in paramilitary activities and terrorism have crossed into the Gaza Strip during the past year and have passed on to members of Hamas and other, smaller terrorist organizations the lessons Iran and Hezbollah have learned from the fighting in southern Lebanon during last summer's war.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/908898.html
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #26
    And women and children as their shield...

    No.... I should condemn killing of 'any kind', I should 'condemn' the the use of suicide bombing, I should condemn using women and children as defense shield while firing rockets of Israelis... 'BUT AGAIN'.. those are damn baby eather jooz...

    Hope you get the point G-Tech
     
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  7. judetheobscure

    judetheobscure Peon

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    #27
    i have never and will never condone killing of any kind, i am as against hamas and hezbollah as i am against the israeli death squads, but you have to see both sides of this, for if you can't then what chance have those people living in the thick of it in israel.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I saw on the news where Israel is admitting they went after Syrian Nuke Spots recently...this out to heat things up now that they have admitted it.
     
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    #29
    And you don't think it's the other way around as well? Honestly, when was the last time you heard of pregnant jewish women and children strapping bombs to themselves? Never, because it won't happen.
     
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    #30
    in his mind...it happens everyday...death to the infidels, right ablaye?
     
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    judetheobscure Peon

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    #31
    suicide bombing is a heinous act, but the reason why israelis don't use this form of violence is because they are well armed with state of the art weaponry which is ten times as effective as suicide bombs.
    in the 1940's when the jews fought the brits for supremacy in israel, jewish terrorists would kill a british officer, then disembowel him, stuff his insides with explosives, then leave him for his fellow soldiers to discover at which point they would detonate the explosives. not exactly suicide bombing, but i am sure you get my point.
    both sides are at fault here, but some of you are too blinkered to see it.
     
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    #32
    No absolutely not, they are taught to have such a deep hatred that they volunteer themselves.

    Palestinian cartoons: Farfur // Farfur 2
     
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    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Incorrect.
    The simple reason behind NOT wanting to blow ourselves up and take innocent lives with us (a very hard concept to grasp, i know..), is because we are not sick, twisted, fucked up people who are brainwashed to HATE from day 1.
    We are not like them, and never will be.
     
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    judetheobscure Peon

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    #34
    so you are superior, of a better race, purer, not contaminated with such venomous bile and a desire for revenge.
    you agree?
    well then, we could just have been reading from 'mein kampf' hitler's famous handbook.
    why not suggest the building of gas chambers for those beastly inhuman arabs.
    i know lets call it 'the final solution'.
     
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    #35
    Are you just a bit confused? nevermind, we already know the answer to that.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #36
    Did I miss a post somewhere? Or is jude foaming at the mouth again?

    This is top selling book in muslim countries. There's a reason why.
     
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  17. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Well, if you had read my entire post, you would have seen that I don't buy this story.
    Zionists have a history of spreading lies and fabricating stuff to paint the palestinians as monsters and beasts.
    No later than last week, Keith Olbermann exposed the ultra zionist David Horowitz for spreading fake images which he (the zionist David Horowitz) said was depicting a woman being buried alive in Iran. It turns out that the images were taken from a dutch movie and the woman who were supposedly being buried alive was in fact a dutch actress.
    Keith Olbermann named David Horowitz as the Worst Person in World on his show that day.

    You can see the youtube video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmterna-Zl4

    Zionists are usually damn good at spreading disinformation and lies against their perceived enemies. I guess this time David Horowitz thought that americans were so naive that no one would have caught the fact that these pictures were taken from a movie!!!
     
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    #38
    Eh... if YOU say so :confused:
     
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    #39
    Yeah, while Palestinians are so truth mouthed that they will never ever tell a lie or spread propaganda.. Correct ablaye, Palestinians will blow themselves up and die in suicide bombing but would never tell lie...

    It's not surprising that you do not buy this story, because you seem to buy every story that has jooz as monster and beasts.
     
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    #40
    Had you been born a Palestinian and been living under a brutal occupation, are you going to tell me that you would not try to fight by any means necessary????
    I am sure that the palestinians would not consider being suicide bombers if they had the weapons to fight the Israelis.

    I don't support suicide bombings but to tell the truth, I don't know what I would have done if I had been living through what they have to endure. It's so easy to take the moral high ground when you are living conformtably in the West or in India (wherever you might be).

    To remind you of the words of Ehud Barak who was Israel's former prime minister:
    "I would have joined a terrorist organization."
    -- Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.
     
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