Been receiving hate emails, threats and harassing messages

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ablaye, Sep 28, 2007.

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  1. #1
    I have been getting hate emails, threats and harassing messages for my posts on this forum exposing Israel, NOT as a peace-loving democracy that they try to sell us, but as a racist expantionist and warmongering nation that uses its powerful lobby in the US (the zionist neo-cons, AIPAC, ...) to try to push the US to attack Iran, after successfully convincing the US to attack Iraq.

    I believe the harassment comes from the member "PalmIslands" but I am not 100% sure.

    There had been a flurry of anti-muslim threads and comments on this forum. But I guess those are ok. But don't you dare question Israel, or the influence that its powerful lobby has in the US. You get labeled an anti-semite, terrorist, terrorist-sympatizer, etc... And now, you get personally harassed.
     
    ablaye, Sep 28, 2007 IP
  2. omgitsfletch

    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Heh, just laugh it off. It's that Israel entitlement again; debate the morals and ethics of everyone in the world, but Israel can do no wrong. Forget 'em.
     
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  3. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    #3
    Expansionist? Is Israel occupying all of the land that God gave the twelve tribes that Moses led through the wilderness or has someone else expanded into it?
     
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    judetheobscure Peon

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    #4
    no matter what a person's opinions may be that does not give people of an opposing opinion the right to harrass that peson via email, that is the act of someone who obviously has very serious issues which are not in any way connected with the debates on this forum and should not taken out on people they know nothing about, excepting the stuff they say here which a person should never be judged on solely. i have frequently disagreed with toopac and proteindude but notwithstanding this i daresay that if i were to meet them in everyday life we would get along just fine.
    this is not good.
    you should complain to the mods ablaye.
     
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  5. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Here's my dilemma with judetheobscure: he's got a great mind but he's using it for the wrong purposes :)

    So far I have not received any hate emails from anyone. I was called things but it's all been happening on the forum. So it's all in the open.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    That's the right wing fascist cowards ablaye. Just ignore them. If they can't win in open debate they resort to cowardly, anonymous harassment.
     
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  7. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    lol, there is no god or moses , silly
     
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    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    Kids like you make Psalms 14:1 one of my favorite verses.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #9
    Something tells me he doesn't have any proof of this hate mail, just like he as no proof for anything else.

    So, now you have an opportunity to forward that hate mail to crazyrob and one of us on this thread to show some proof. If you got hate mail, who is it from?

    BTW, you haven't exposed Israel for anything, but you have exposed your hatred and inability to understand.
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    Yes you should post proof before making any allegations ablaye publically.

    That's right, likewise too.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    im just happy that ablaye finally started a thread he didn't rip from another site.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    just checked, he's email enabled in his profile. No wonder
     
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  13. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you are not familiar with the terms jewish settlers, israeli settlements, and occupied territories.
    Israel has jewish settlers in Occupied East Jerusalem, jewish settlers in Occupied West Bank, jewish settlers in Occupied Golan Heights (taken from Syria) and military outposts in Occupied Shebaa Farms (taken from Lebanon).

    Here are some quotes from Israel Former Prime Minister and "Man of Peace" Ariel Sharon:

    "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
    -- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

    "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
    -- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    didn't israel acquire the shebaa farms and golan heights after the 6 day war. maybe if syria doesn't want to lose territory, it shouldnt attaack other countries.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    Here is an example of what happened to those who dare speak out against Israel interests:

    • Former president Jimmy Carter has been vilified for his book Palestine—Peace not Apartheid, and after Harvard University invited him to speak, many of the university’s backers withdrew funding.

    • Professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt have been vilified for writing The Israel Lobby, and have had speaking engagements cancelled.

    • Professor Norman Finkelstein is denied tenure at DePaul University after a smear campaign orchestrated by Alan Dershowitz.


    Source: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18472.htm

    For those who don't know who don't know Norman Finkelstein and Alan Dershowitz, here is who they are:

    Norman Finkelstein is the son of a holocaust survivor and is jewish. He has criticized Zionists for taking advantage of the Holocaust to justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, to further Israel's interests, to silence Israel critics. He wrote the book: The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering.

    Alan Dershowitz is the AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) attack dog. Write anything that is not praising of Israel, you'll have Alan Dershowitz on your back.

    Make your own informed judgement.
     
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    ablaye,
    Let's not bother with Jimmy Carter and some professors.

    I take it you are living under the system that was created by Mohamed. He acknowledged Moses and Jesus. What area is the promised land given by God to Moses? Israel has a sliver of land of land and many would love to kill them all and push them into the Mediterranean Sea. Why do Muslims hate God's chosen people?
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    I think you should ask yourself the opposite question.
    Why do Israelis want to kill palestinians and push them into the Red (Not Mediterranean) Sea??? Because this is what is happening at the moment. The palestinians are being ethnically cleansed, their homes and olive groves getting bulldozed by the Israelis, their lands being grabbed by the Settlers. You must live in a parallel universe if you pretend that it is the opposite that is happening.

    By the way, your comment show a total lack of knowledge of your geography. The Mediterranean sea is between North Africa and Europe.
    You probably meant the Red Sea in your comment above.


    Why shouldn't we bother with Jimmy Carter and some professors? Is this too inconvenient for you???
     
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    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    In the universe I live the Mediterranean Sea has an eastern shore which includes Israel. The Red Sea touches a small southern portion of Israel. Shouldn't the enormous countries that surround tiny little Israel take in these poor Palestinians.

    Jimmy Carter and professors are not inconvenient. Carter left office with hostages in Iran, mortgage rates at 3 times what they were in the 60s and now, and gas prices that had skyrocketed to about double what they are today in relative terms.

    Please post again when you find where the western Mediterranean meets the western coast of Israel.
     
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    Doesn't surprise me in the least. There are a few of us who get "rep attacked" and that's another way they try to shut people up whom they cannot win an argument with.
     
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    Im sorry for you man :(, I am against hate and stuff, I myself admit we have a powerful lobby in the US, never do I blame or hate muslims.

    And I am a jewish israeli citizen, so if someone does that to you dont blame us for this - its someones bad attitude :p

    LONG LIVE ISRAEL F--K the haters
     
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