Artificial life in 3 to 10 years - religious impact?

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  1. stOx

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    #21
    They would tell you that souls don't exist. And if you think otherwise you better go away and find some proof.
     
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    #22
    You mean it would require intelligent design to create life - interesting possibility, forget religion, how would evolution get on?
     
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    #23
    What about the golem or transmutation of metals? The occult sciences gave birth to most of our current sciences, so why should any of these goals be new? Since we are not able to see too far down the road-who knows what will come of this? In this sense, precisely what can be done is what should be done...
     
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    #24
    Them not being able to beat you to death does not mean they do not have feelings. They suffer and they think (perhaps more logically than some humans to be honest.) A chicken does not willingly offer itself for you to kill it, and it would run away if it could. It is simply that the stronger rules.




    I do not believe that any human-like artificial life could be ''produced'' within 10 years. I think it will take more time before we can get there, but we eventually could do it if technology keeps progressing at the same pace. It is a scary thought and the consequences could be not so favorable.

    Does getting there proves the inexistence of God? Definitely not. If anything, it would give you more reasons to believe how powerful he is. I think there are already enough reasons to leave every religion behind you, but dismissing the idea of God is ridiculous. God may not exist anymore, but someone or something had to start this universe. I call that God, and he/she/it is very powerful.
     
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    #25
    The created life would still evolve providing it had the capacity to mutate, To select mates based on abilities and to pass on half of it's "genetic material" - Which may be code - to it's offspring. Anything will "evolve" if it meets those three criteria.
     
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    #26
    I believe also that we will defeat the aging process too, it's a matter of time.
     
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    #27
    i doubt if this is gonna happen, u can create human clone but not clone of a human soul.
     
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    #28
    souls don't exist. :rolleyes:

    You know that identical twins have exact DNA matches right? They are physically and genetically no different than a clone. Are you saying that - If souls exist - Identical twins don't have one? or maybe only one of them has a soul?

    Humans are nothing but a big bag full of water and chemicals. The sooner you realise this the better. There is no magic, There is no invisible man in the sky and there is no soul. We are as biological machine which is the result of two things. Out genetic makeup and our life experiences.
     
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    #29
    Yes, it is incredibly sad. I wholeheartedly support stem cell research. I can somewhat understand why someone would not (aside from religious reasons I mean) such as cloning human beings but I don't think it'll ever come to that..
     
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    #30
    you must be a vegetarian then, you not even eat eggs.
     
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    #31
    Well, I was referring to people who claim clones doesn't have soul as only 'God' can create souls..

    Chickens are generous, unlike human. They do not kill you for killing them.
    Cry? Yes, thats the best they do, when you kill them.
    Out of curiousity, are you Muslim?
     
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    #32
    Bias and wrong, conservatives are only against stem cell research which is from an aborted baby. There has never been a usefull stem cell from an aborted baby, all the other are types are useful and fine.

    But some *cough*liberals*cough* would do anything, even lie, to make conservatives bad (thats not pointed at you).
     
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    #33
    As far as I know, the church (catholic?) and Christians are not against stem cell research, but only killing babies for that research. Sad, but there are plenty of stem cells available without killing babies, yet they act like that is their only source for them.

    I have stem cells and you should too, they are necessary for repair.


    --- sorry, didn't see the reply from village ----
     
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    #34
    Being against embryonic stem cell research is like being against organ donation because you believe that they are killing people to get the organs.
     
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    #35
    It may surprise you to learn that many scientists are believers in God, Jesus, and the Bible. Science and faith are not mutually exclusive as certain subscribers of religious intolerance would have us believe.
     
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    #36
    stox's hatred for Christians will not allow him to believe that. So even if he met a few hundred scientists who are Christian, he would have to say they are lying.
     
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    #37
    It's funny how no software product gets released without patches following quickly. So some scientists are going to come up with DNA for this new life and get released with no patches to follow.

    Oooops, I just got a notification from God 1.0 that I needed to check for software updates. Hang on a second.....

    .....No need for update, it says last update, Savior0 is still current.
     
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    #38
    That would suggest the dying is wrong, dying is fine, murder is not.
     
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    #39
    I have no doubt that some scientists are religious. But i also have no doubt that the vast majority are not. I also have no doubt that the religious scientists would never present a paper where "faith" in their conclusion was required. Science is about evidence and peer review, Not just believing what someone says.

    If that is what you are against maybe you should refine your opinion to something like "embryos shouldn't be harvested for stem cell research". because at present, Your argument doesn't take in to consideration embryos that are miscarried naturally, Blastocyst obtained by nuclear transfer or stem cells obtained from adult bone marrow.

    To have a blanket opinion about stem cell research when you obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about is ignorant.
     
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    #40
    Where are you getting the "faith" part from, besides your own faith in science "theories" LOL

    Look at the bold and see what you say about yourself.
     
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