So in a normal blackjack game, you place a $10 dollar bet. Anything except a blackjack (or a winning split or double), the bettor knows the result will be +$10 if the hand was a winning one. You buy a scratch ticket. The scratch ticket tells you your chances, the rules, and how much you can win. Both these above examples I gave, the gambler pays money knowing the possible results and knows how the system works. What is your point? I'll continue with this debate hopefully tomorrow during break hours. Until then, I encourage anyone to try to prove me wrong.
why are we having so many threads like this one... what are we trying to prove on Bidding directories, It is just a different concept on directories, where people bid to get higher listing to get higher bidding !
bidding directories are just like any other directory! the method of sorting is based on the amount of bids, that's it! in adwords you bid for click, like 5 cents a click, or $5 a click! then you will say adwords is also gambling! gambling is uncertainty! but when you bid you get a permanant link in the category pages, which is not a gamble! a $10 bid is always $10, it can get out-bid but it can't be removed, so you don't lose your bid anyways!! Bidding is competition, more you bid, the more traffic you get! On a side note! this thread is a waste of time
Your opinion is welcomed. But I just hope you really read my arguments and try to find other arguments to prove me wrong. So you define two different words and it comes up with different meanings in the dictionary. That was a given. Do you not bid in a card game? Do you bid on a horse race? Are those not forms of gambling? Bidding on horses is a form of gambling. Bidding on bid directories is also another form of gambling. What is highlighted in bold is what is wrong with this small directory community that I have been following up the last 2 months. "gambling is uncertainty!" And bidding for a front page spot is not? I should rephrase my question. Is bidding on a bid directory for a front page spot in return for traffic a form of gambling? The fact that it involves this type of action is what makes it a form of gambling.
Bidding in a bid directory and gambling cannot be compared. They are two separates and a nonsense to have any of the same meaning or be put into the same context as such.
Is it? Or you just don't want to hear it? Is this how you enter a debate? Make blatant statements as if your correct and not provide any substantial reasons? Even mikey boy did a better job.
A blatant statement is admittedly what I did. Why? Because I am correct and I as stated they are two totally different entities. What are you exactly gambling on when you bid in a directory? In effect what you are doing is buying advertising. Advertising whereby at a later date you can go back and increase your advertsing budget and receive more exposure to your business. Gambling - you either get a straight loss or a nice enjoyable win. Gambling to me is also clear as i've played at many places throughout the UK and Europe.
Learn to read my arguments first and then post. Your gambling for a spot on the main page of a bidding directory, which in return has a chance to be lost. In other words, someone is taking a risk when bidding for a front page spot. You never broke even while gambling? Ever buy a scratch ticket for 5 dollars and end up winning only 5 dollars?
I have a post here... http://beacon-blog.com/bidding-v-paid-directories-yet-again from a couple of days ago... I still don't see the difference between bidding directories and "more traditional" forms of advertising. You PAY for exposure, right? Why does a SuperBowl ad cost millions and a 2 am Sunday night ad cost a couple thousand?
Lance, this debate is not comparing bidding directories to your more traditional directories. A bit off topic wouldn't you say? No where in a traditional directory do you bid to be on the front page.
You are not gambling for a spot on the homepage. Have you ever gambled and gone to the cashier and asked the cashier that if you came back later would the money you lost be held in reserve for you. Why does bidding in a bid directory have to necessarily mean you bid on the homepage. Most bidding directories also offer a dedicated page lisiting and you are always in the directory category you have submitted to anyway. Hell no, I don't do dollars.
when gambling its either win or lose when you bid you are always kept in the directory just maybe not on front page in fact I placed a bid on a bidding directory where as I just wanted to be in it not on the front page when gamling on the horses I never knew if the horse would win or not so gambling to me is not knowing the outcome but bidding you do
Certain bidders do indeed bid for a spot on the homepage. I have read many times from certain people that being on the homepage is everyting to them. For these type of people who do these type of actions, it is a form of gambling. As I stated before, I'll state again: If day 1, you reach spot #5. Day 7, you lose it to other bidders for an X amount of time. So therefore you are technically losing what you paid for. Then it will force you to spend even more money to gain the spot back. And when you do, you are again taking another gamble.
Jodee, (assuming thats your name from your avatar), certain people do lose. People don't pay hundreds of dollars to not be on the front page. They pay hundreds in hopes that they stay on. Those who bid $5-$10 dollars to be kept in a category or a Letter page ARE NOT GAMBLING since its not too risky for them. Example of losers: http://www.bigweblinks.com/Web-Directories/ View that page and anywhere from #8 spot down are losers. Why? They paid $1,000+ in hopes to be on the front page. What happend? They didn't want to continue to gamble and keep taking a chance of being outbidded. I can find lots of other examples. How much traffic do they lose? How much traffic would they have gotten if they were to remain in the front page vs. being knocked to the category page where some won't even scroll down to look at the #8 spot.
I've bid in bidding directories and been on the homepages of these sites and many of the ones I have done so at we are still there. From my point of view, when my site comes away from the homepage it will be knowingly that my advert has expired for a while until I am ready to go back increase my advertising exposure.
Well Lance, read my arguments and you will see why bidding for a front page spot is a form of gambling. Your #4 post rambles on about people bidding for exposure. Will in this case, the exposure your paying for can be lost by a chance of someone outbidding you, or even scamming you. Break time is over. I would still welcome anyones opinions and reasons on to why bidding for a frontpage spot IS NOT a form of gambling.
yes my name is JoDee and why do you not consider it risky because of the $$ amounts how can you say with certainty how risky it is to someone say from a 3rd world country