Do Not Work With Kashem!

That's unfortunate, you wouldn't think it would happen with someone with such high itrader.

 

I haven't had any reason to think the OP is an unethical writer, and at the same time the client was also a past client of mine for a different type of project, and I had absolutely no problem with them. Given, I don't have the time to read every post in this thread, but here are a few of my thoughts:

1. Don't air a complaint about a client publicly. It just makes you look bad, and risks scaring other clients off. There are private ways to deal with a client if you provide the content and they don't pay you.

2. You lose the right to complain that something isn't paid for when A) you turn down an offered down payment on the work, and B) you don't supply the already-written articles for compensation. In this situation the right way to handle it is to accept the contract cancellation if the client insists, but then you insist on payment for the work done (AFTER you give it to the client, since you already agreed to payment after completion and not before). The client seems to have been willing to do that.

3. If you choose to hire a writer from somewhere like a forum, do your research as thoroughly as you can. The best bet is to only work with freelancers who come personally recommended by people you trust. So ask around with other members before hiring.

4. The services you choose to offer as a writer will automatically lump you into a certain "class" of writers, including any ethical questions or credibility issues that naturally come with that, like it or not. It's just a fact of life. While there are some genuine article rewriters who only do work for clients with legitimate rights to the original material, the fact is that many actually produce illegal rewrites. There's a stigma attached to the title. If you choose to market rewriting services in a place like a webmaster forum, and you want to seriously market unique writing services, you should have already expected a situation like this as a possibility in doing business. It definitely shouldn't be a surprise. Consider altering either your service model or how you market yourself if you want to be viewed differently (for example, market your services as an editor, and not a "rewriter"). So a lesson for new writers: choose the type of writer you want to be and the type of reputation you want to pursue. Then specialize. If you try to be everything to everyone, you're going to risk your credibility in any one area.

It really sounds like it's just time to move on. Don't air client complaints publicly. If you want to resell the work, just resell it. But you could have been compensated for it as agreed upon. Clients cancel projects all the time. As long as they pay for the time you've already committed (and any other kill fees as outlined in your contract if you have them included), they don't owe you more work, and it's unprofessional to withhold what's already been done based on the agreed upon payment terms.

Just my $.02.

 

Contact mods, they will surely help you both and found the scammer

 

The mods will not do a thing about this case. It is specifically between the two only. Mods will usually come in if advised by the admins. The admins would only take action if it was of a serious nature. This, unfortunately, is not of a serious nature. The writer has lost time, yes. However, personally, I have had clients let me down on many occasions and lost a lot more money than the OP on this occasion.

I am not taking sides. Just pointing out where the mods fit in in this situation. Mods, correct me if I am wrong here.

Col

 

I have worked for many clients - a lot from DP here. I think client has rights to know what he will get from me. If he feels he will not get what he wants, he has the rights to cancel the project. If there any works before he cancel the project done , client should pay for that receiving the delivery of works.

In your case I think the client asked you to send him the works you have done and receive the payment, you should do that and should not create a thread like this blaming client publicly.

 

While I do believe you did not plan to have the articles rewritten, his concerns are legitimate - why not prove him wrong as soon as he requests proof?

He is your client, after all - do everything you can to satisfy him, instead of explaining how obligated he is.

The truth of the matter is - if he's in another country, he won't be too scare of your threats - and the rule of thumb is, please your customer - if everything STILL goes wrong (i.e. he doesn't pay you for the time you've spent so far working - by the way, I don't believe you're entitled for the full sum, but rather for the hours you've worked until he requested you to halt, along with a reasonable compensation for your lost time during which you could have worked for others - which is probably about 5 hours + 10% of the total fee roughly), that's when you need to start complaining in my opinion.

If memory serves, we've discussed business in the past and I had a pleasant experience with Kashem.

Just my thoughts, anyhow.

Adi Friedman
Two Believers.

 

new members dishonest, old members honest, right? where are you from? interesting way of thinking.

 

Mods generally do not interfere into these kind of disputes which are based on misunderstandings- lack of proper communications before the deal was finalized.

I don't like to take sides. But lemme put in some points here---

POINT 1-- What was the understanding before the deal was finalized? Was the deal for 100% original articles or re-written articles?

If the author claims 100% unique articles- the client has the right to verify them at anytime during the process. If he finds they have been re-written, he has every right to cancel the order.

It all depends on what was the understanding before the deal was finalized.

 

I have a question.. what were the articles about ? I don't mean to step on anyone's toes.. But there's something rotten in the land of Denmark and I seem to be in the middle of this whole debacle.

 

Lol, you got my first post.

If an old member is dishonest than he can't do business in any forum, that is my point. Scammer always left community.

 

Just can't decide whom to support here!

Actually the writer says she started 24 articles at a time??? How can this be? Writing one line in each article?

And Kashem, it is just a hurry to close the deal when u see a rewriter request thread from the writer. You just don't know why that writer needs a re-writer. So you can't just blame the writer!

 

Thank you for your comments.
MOD, PLEASE CLOSE THREAD.

 

Yeah let's not close it 'cause Kesham was right. You hired me to rewrite 24 articles on data recovery, trying to make money off of me and him. just confess and be over with it, 'cause this really isn't worth all that trouble.

 

Honestly, why does it matter if they are rewritten? As long as Jessica ensures each article is up to her standards, it shouldn't matter who does the research should it?

 

lol Knew something was up. But, do you have proof?

 

Why would I lie I have no reason ? I did half of them and then I was told to stop. I have the e-mails, I have the conversations. Now I'm not for public displays of humiliation or whatever, so I'll keep those to myself. Nobody needs this to get even uglier than it already is.

 

Here are titles that she said she would write for me.

All-About-Data-Recovery
ASP Hosting Services ( this one I said to remove her)
Backing-It-Up-With-A-CD-Rom
Backup-Data-On-Your-Laptop
Backup-Data-Properly
Computer-Diagnostics
Cooling-Your-Hard-Drive
Data-Recovery-Procedures
Dealing-With-The-Loss-Of-Data
Digital-Photo-Recovery
Help-With-Data-Recovery
Importance-Of-Recovery-Planning LONG
Knowing-Your-Data-Is-Safe
Losing-Your-Mind-With-Data-Recovery
Not-Too-Late-For-Data-Recovery
Offsite-Backup-Advantages
Online-Data-Backups
Professional-Data-Recovery-Services
Recovery-For-Your-Hard-Drive
Software-Backup-For-Everyone
The-Evaluation-Process-Of-Data-Recovery
Tips-For-Data-Recovery
Where-To-Go-For-Data-Recovery
Why-You-Shouldn't-Try-Data-Recovery-Yourself


I would ask jagger to let all know if these are the articles she asked you to rewrite . If yes , then she lied to me saying the writer she was hiring to rewrite for other project. . So lie every where- from starting to end.

 

Rewriting is fine but lying about it is pretty shady.

 

Yup, those are the articles.Not that I want to step on anyone's toes, but come on people.Stop this madness.

 

Hi
How do you know Kashem is right?

I think you know something that we don't know.
Can you post those proofs for all of us so that we know who is fooling around here? I think lots of people are waiting to get some concrete proofs.

Is it that OP has really hired re-writer?