PR9 site, 7 Subpages with PR8 and about 20 pages with PR6

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Jucesar, Sep 25, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi everyone,

    A link in a site in a subpage of a domain .org with a PR9 main page, 7 Subpages with PR8 and about 20 pages with PR6

    How much would you pay to have a link listed on all of these pages?

    What do you think this could do for you site.

    Lets see what you guys think... Maybe i´ll offer it here...
     
    Jucesar, Sep 25, 2007 IP
  2. joey112

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    $200 US a month minimum.
     
    joey112, Sep 25, 2007 IP
  3. twalters84

    twalters84 Peon

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    Hey there,

    It depends. How many links would you have on the page?

    Getting a PR10 backlink on a page that has 10 outgoing links is the same as getting a PR1 backlink on a page that has 1 outgoing link.

    The PR is distributed through all outgoing links.

    Thus, if you have a lot of outgoing links, I would not pay much.

    Sincerely,
    Travis Walters
     
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  4. SolomonZhang

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    And when it's soooooo famous. Google will flag it and the links will worth less.
     
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  5. Devesh100

    Devesh100 Active Member

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    Fully agreed. When I will buy the links I will consider both aspects together, its PR and its outgoing links count. By the way...are you serious about the facts... or just for the sake of asking....
     
    Devesh100, Sep 26, 2007 IP
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  7. Hopper

    Hopper Well-Known Member

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    Absolutly NO WAY, yes 10 links on a PR 10 site is not a good as 1 link on a PR site but to say that 10 links on a PR 10 is as good as a PR1 link is wrong.
     
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  8. twalters84

    twalters84 Peon

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    Greetings,

    I am basing my conclusion on the following article:

    http://www.iprcom.com/papers/pagerank/

    Check out this formula:

    PR(A) = (1-d) + d (PR(T1)/C(T1) + ... + PR(Tn)/C(Tn))

    Where:
    PR(Tn) = Page rank of referring page
    C(Tn) = Number of out going links on referring page

    10 / 10 = 1
    1 / 1 = 1

    You tell me if I am wrong :)

    Sincerely,
    Travis Walters
     
    twalters84, Sep 26, 2007 IP
  9. joey112

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    twalters theres no disrespect here but thats not true. Page rank has to do with back links and traffic. a pr1 site could have 5 backlinks. Whereas a PR10 site has to have a minimum 20 000 backlinks. e.g the backlinks of the PR1 multiplied by 10 are not even a quarter of the PR10 links. Also the traffic would be less than a 10th aswell, much less. I don't get this logic. No disrespect mate, maths to me doesn't solve everything. ;)
     
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  10. twalters84

    twalters84 Peon

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    Hey there,

    I do not mean any disrespect either. This is just an educational discussion about how page rank is calculated :)

    That formula is quoted from the original google paper. Page rank does not have to do with "traffic" but the amount of inbound links and the quality of those links.

    "PageRank or PR(A) can be calculated using a simple iterative algorithm, and corresponds to the principal eigenvector of the normalized link matrix of the web."

    That is why I stated that all the factors to determine page rank can not be known at a single point in time. However, using this formula, the numbers begin to settle as you approach PR(Tn)/C(Tn).

    Now say you have two websites.

    Website A has only one backlink from a PR10 site that has 10 outgoing links.

    PR(T1)/C(T1) = 10 / 10 = 1

    Website B has only one backlink from a PR1 site that has 1 outgoing link.

    PR(T1)/C(T1) = 1 / 1 = 1

    According to the definition of page rank on this original google paper, i can mathematically verify that what I am saying is correct. I do have a mathematics degree after all :)

    Regardless of the definition, if people want to get a better SERP by SEO, then they need to increase the number of quality backlinks. I bet 99% of the people on the forum already knew that though heh..

    Sincerely,
    Travis Walters
     
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  11. adiante

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    Jucesar, do you really have a site with those credentials? If yes, its a real gem you have. What is the site about?
     
    adiante, Sep 26, 2007 IP
  12. Jucesar

    Jucesar Peon

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    I´d like to see where you read that.... This is absurd.
     
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    Jucesar Peon

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    By the way it is an .org site with many authority sites linking to it...

    I am skeptical about the fact google delayed its usual update and all the fuss about text-link ads being hunted and penalties for people.

    PR9 with 7 PR8 subpages and more about 30 PR6 with 10 outgoing links...


    $1.000 a month... it seems fair...
     
    Jucesar, Sep 26, 2007 IP
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    Thats crazy talk.. think about it for second.
     
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  15. Jucesar

    Jucesar Peon

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    I have seen a single PR9 link being sold for $899.... The offer for $1000 with only 10 outbound would be quite good i believe.

    This is pretty much a PR6 guarantee on a google update. What do u guys think?
     
    Jucesar, Sep 27, 2007 IP
  16. bacanze

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    Totally agree, those formulas as just assumptions based on some information, that isnt the google pagerank algorithm.
     
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  17. twalters84

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    Hey there,

    I think I may have found this original google paper the other website was referring to:

    http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html

    Scroll down to 2.1.1 Description of PageRank Calculation on this page.

    While I agree with you there are some anomolies that occur, such as websites having a high PR without any backlinks, this formula provides the basis of which PR is calculated.

    As to when this paper was created and if the formula changed since then is beyond me. While you can deny the fomula, there is some mathematical formula at the root of it, whether it is this one or something else.

    Sincerely,
    Travis Walters
     
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  18. joey112

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    Most Definetely. could even get up to a PR7 with a few more solid links around it.
     
    joey112, Sep 29, 2007 IP
  19. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    * if you OWN that site , i believe it worths over 500$/month.

    * but if you DONT OWN that site, it worths NOTHINK . there are so many stupid children are selling those types of information links sales forum.

    after you sell that information, that site will be full of spam and the owner will put NOFOLLOW to the links.

    so do you own that web site? or are you one of those childrens?;) i hope you are not
     
    trichnosis, Sep 29, 2007 IP
  20. Jucesar

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    I own the links section as a broker.
     
    Jucesar, Sep 29, 2007 IP