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  1. #1
    Hello,

    My account got limited access for last some days. Due to this limitation many of my user's payment has became on hold by paypal and they are shouting at me. However, I provided all the documents that paypal asked for.. I sent UTILITY BILL COPY & DRIVER LICENSE. Now the one thing is left which is BANK STATEMENT.

    My paypal account was verified using US BANK ACCOUNT which are being selling in DP for $15. And I somehow figured to made out the utility bill and driver license and sent to them and got approved. But now only I need is Bank Statement which is the only last step which will get my access back.

    The bank account which is used to verified is from BANK OF AMERICA so I need one such bank statement which is from BANK OF AMERICA and I will modify to my address and account number and I'll send it to the paypal and I am sure that they will get my account access back. The one who will be able to provide me this bank statement then I will pay him.

    I wouldn't bother about my paypal account if it had few dollars but it has some hundreds of dollars so I am worried more about it.

    Please help me all the professionals of DP. I guess I will get good help and support from DigitalPoint's members.

    Regards,
     
    AlTeC, Sep 24, 2007 IP
  2. Nora

    Nora Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry but I don't think there's much you can do. As far as I know its illegal to buy Paypal verifications. They want the information on there to be real so handing in false documents won't help. Isn't there a way to verify it using your real information?
     
    Nora, Sep 24, 2007 IP
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    Hellfire81 Peon

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    #3
    There is nothing illegal. In worst case it´s against PPs TOS but not illegal. Making fake documents is always "illegal"


    At OP: I´ll have a look if I find someone who can help you with this problem, will let you know
     
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  4. AlTeC

    AlTeC Banned

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    Please let me know that how you can help me. It's about $700+ bucks.. which I earned by my business sales. So, I will pay sth to the one of couple who will be helping me getting this document and restore my account access. I would really appriciate, if you guys help and support me about this matter.

    Thanks,
     
    AlTeC, Sep 24, 2007 IP
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    eddy2099 Peon

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    It looks like Paypal found out that you use false information to sign up. That is against their Terms and Conditions. You should know that this would happen when you sign up using false information. There is a reason for contracts because they are legally binding which requires both parties to be honest.

    Just take it as an expensive lesson and do not ever do this again. Next time just use real information and if you are not permitted to have a paypal account then don't have it, there is a reason for this.
     
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  6. AlTeC

    AlTeC Banned

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    I know, but atleast for this huge recovery a way must be present. As this bank accounts and vcc are sold for verification and there must be a way for getting this resolved if problems occurs thought if it's very uncommon. I am still looking for atleast one sample bank statement which will do my work. As paypal had accepted all of my documents, just one more left.

    If anyone can help me then I will pay him back and that's for sure.
     
    AlTeC, Sep 24, 2007 IP
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    rldowling03 Notable Member

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    You deserve this. Teach you a lesson to not scam people. Don't help this guy, just look through his other threads
     
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    AlTeC Banned

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    I didn't scammed anyone. The people who were got paid through my paypal account has got transaction/amount hold by paypal when my account got limited access and they just started to say I scammed them. I didn't even opened any dispute or anything against any transaction I paid to the users... if you clearly check the transactoin details then you will see that it's on hold by paypal investigators not by me. If there is any paypal experts then they can say why the transactions are on hold while my account got limited access after the payments.
     
    AlTeC, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    Well, the main business you have scam is Paypal itself when you use fictious documentations and probably fake details when you signed up. This is pretty much bad enough already. You are supposed to use accurate and real information during your sign up as per your contract with Paypal.
     
    eddy2099, Sep 25, 2007 IP
  10. AlTeC

    AlTeC Banned

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    I know, I decided not to use paypal about few years ago. Then from the time I joined DP and TalkGold I saw that there is possibility of using paypal using VCC or Bank Account. Then after seeing such facility of VCC and Bank A/c even in cheap who wouldn't stop using paypal. I am not sure but I can guess that most of the DP users use Paypal which are verified through VCC or USA Bank account which is being selling every hours and minutes in DP. If you would want to say that I scam with paypal then what about the others. I guess you could say that to stop those illegal business such as VCC for paypal verification. So, it isn't all my fault, the way you saying. I see you are a respected user in DigitalPoint and I do respect you as my senior, but your are just blaming me all the way which i can say that isn't fair. I came here to help, not for the clarification I guess and I expected to get some help from the guys in DP. Neither I am meaning you anything.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #11
    I doubt there's anything you can do. Paypal are a banking company and as such require real documentation that isn't "purchased" or photoshopped.

    As for the "illegal", while it's certainly against the TOS of Paypal I suspect most countries would consider the use of falsified documents for financial gain to be illegal. While you may have done the work, using Paypal to receive the funds was for your financial gain. You could have used WU, egold or any of the other systems.
     
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  12. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    Well, yes I have been warning people about using VCC and using false information when signing up with Paypal. I am not just targetting you but everyone who uses such fake documentations. I mean you should know that it was wrong to do so. It would be weird that such respectable companies like Paypal explicitly accept fake documentations for sign up.

    The thing is that people here are doing it does not make it right. The trouble is that many here sadly just do not have any regards to rules, terms of contracts or anything. This really sadden me and because of my observation here about how so many people here are making a mockery of Paypal's verification process that I decided to quit using Paypal as a means to collecting payments.

    I wished that people wise up here and to only use real information and not fake ones then we could see a cleaning up of Paypal's system and thereby reducing the level of fraud on the system. As it is, Paypal is a lawless place where you cannot trust the members anymore.

    There is really nothing you can do because once you first sign up using fake documentation, you are already violating Paypal's terms and contracts. In some countries that can lead to serious consequences.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Eddy, I think there's a feeling here that since you don't have to look anyone in the eye, shake there hand or sign a real document that this is no more real than Grand Theft Auto. They forget that companies like Paypal are real financial institutions with shareholders and huge financial liability. They're not about to let people defraud them.
     
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    Well, I am using paypal knowing all this as becuase paypal brings you the 75% of you sales which you believe it or not. And I took this risk of signing up with fake informations but risk is always everywhere.

    This is not the first time I got my account access limited. Few days ago, paypal required me to change my security questions and changing password while providing the complete bank and credit card informations and got my access back. But this time it's asking for documents.

    I had seen many forums or thread in DP that they got success by processing fake documents sent to paypal and got their account access restored. And I am looking for that thing here. I just need a sample copy of a bank statement which is from BANK OF AMERICA .
     
    AlTeC, Sep 25, 2007 IP
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    Didn't mean illegal as in law just the terms and stuff.

    Fake information is probably the reason your paypal got limited to begin with. I don't think you'll be able to get your money back.. unless maybe you start providing them with real info.
     
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    Boy o boy why did you go for that stuff, did not a Joe from this forum tell you that it is illegal?

    You are kidding right? Do you know Paypal verifies these on phone? No one will risk his or her bank account for you.

    You might ask the person who sold you the verification for $15, what should you do now and keep us posted about it.
     
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    You can´t say using fake info is "scam"!!! If you do "legit" biz with a PP-account with fake-info because your country is not supported, who is scammed then? PayPal only earns money from you so there is no scam.
     
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    There is nothing of risk providing a bank statement. As he/she will be providing just a sample, even he/she can edit/hide/blur her account numbers and other major stuffs and give the sample. I just need the layout and the full design sample. And I am paying for it. My paypal is phone verified and I am talking with them very frequently about this and that issue with my paypal account.
     
    AlTeC, Sep 26, 2007 IP
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    There is a reason why Paypal does not allow certain countries and when you sign up with Paypal, you agree to the contract that you provide accurate information. So fake information would inevitable be a breach of the contractual agreement which you agreed to. So isn't that lying.

    You are basically circumventing Paypal rules and have total disregard to them. They did not support your country for a reason and it is not an oversight or anything.

    If you lie in your application, how would anyone be able to trust you ?

    https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/UserAgreement/ua/USUA-outside#restricted-policy

    You mean you can just disregard this if you do not like it ?
     
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    What you are seeking is not something right. Period. Does not matter even if you pay for it. For example you can pay someone for murdering someone - that does not prove murdering is legal.

    So you wll build up a fake statement using the layout - what you are forgetting is Paypal calls the bank branch or faxes it to the bank for verification :), you might just get into more trouble! My suggestion is you have already started the ceiling fan and you have a packet of shit in your hands. Now whether you will trash the shit or throw it on the ceiling fan, its upto you. Give it a thought before you do anything.
     
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