Muslims pls read- Hadith about dogs goes against quran

If a dog licks you, does that make g-d deaf to your prayers? If you have been spit on, do you think g-d doesn't find you worthy or love you as much? Do you know how much microbial bacteria we already have on our bodies right now, are we ever perfectly clean?

 

The prophet is "always right" with these religious folk, even if the prophet himself was wrong, so it's a waste of time arguing with em

 

The whole quran has nothing bad to say about dogs and the quran is supposed to be written by g-d. Then you have hadith written by man saying black dogs are evil, allah will punish you for owning a dog and angels will never enter a room with a dog. I think if I were Muslim I would go with what g-d is supposed to have said. Then you have Muslims saying in one breath how g-d loves dogs...in the next breath agreeing with the hadith that black dogs are evil, angels won't go in same room etc. etc. It really makes no sense to me at all actually. Not even trying to argue. Was genuinely trying to understand, because I thought I must be missing something. But no. Basically g-d loves dogs, he just doesn't want you to.

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ok as a Muslim I want to say something real quick to all Muslims who keep bringing up th saliva thing with a few words from the Quran.

Surah 5:4 -"They ask you what is lawful for them (as food). Say: Lawful unto you are the At-Tayyibat [all kinds of halal (lawful good) foods which Allah has made lawful. And those beast and birds of prey which you have trained as hounds, training and teaching them in the manner as directed to you by Allah; so eat What they catch for you, but pronounce the name of Allah over it, and fear Allah.Verily, Allah is swift in reckoning."

Ok Allah says clearly that we can eat what the catch for us which means that the saliva and the snout of the dog is all over that animal/meat and probably inside it too from the biting. Allah never mentions that the saliva is unclean or that whatever a dog touches has to be washed 7 times and the last time with dust (Sound crazy dosent it? crazy hadiths =P). For those who have read the Quran know that whenever there is a necessary process (cleaning etc.) (whudhu, ghusl) Allah explains it clearly in the Quran. The only way to judge a Religion is to base it on the book of the religion. Hadiths should never be used as an argument for or against Islam. A lot of hadiths (Not all some are really beautiful) are hearsay, fabrications, lies and the list goes on. Using Hadiths is like using a Book T.D Jakes wrote and trying using it against Christianity when its not the Christian book. Bottom line If anything dogs should be running from us because scientifically human mouths have 2 to 3 time more bacteria than dogs <(^_-)>.....stop hattin on the dogs do your research .

 

Brother, that argument does not carry weight because Allah says you can eat what they catch for you...it doesn't mean we DON't have to wash it..

Anyways, how do you pray when in the Quran there is no mention of how to pray. That is why Quran and Sunnah (Hadith) go hand in hand, of course you have to take away the Hadith that contradict the Quran. That's why we have scholars that spend their life studying all aspects. We should seek their guidance. Just the other day, our local Imam was telling us, this day and age, every man has a book and is going around teaching others what he thinks it's right. This only leads the society to jahilya. The knowledge will be taken away from this earth, not by taking away the books but Allah will take away the scholars from this world. This is truly what we should ponder over. The scholars who spend their lives studying are not just doing it for their own good (hereafter) but they are doing it for us. We should really try to understand their sacrifice. Without them this ummah will be like the many that have come before us.....

Dear Rebecca, like I mentioned above, one needs to understand the science of Hadith, (of course we reject ANY hadith that contradicts the Quran), that is why we seek knowledge from scholars. Hope you understand.

 

So what's wrong with washing your hands after a dog licks you, surely then you could own a dog?

 

i think this is about sectarians of islam, i heared shiite's can not have animal in Turkey we have animals, for example i have a cat and my neighbours have dogs, cats, birds etc (Turks are not shiite),

Don't worry mate, they will come back to 21th century, is animals enemy of the god? it's funny.

..and M5love, don't care hadiths.

 

That is so great to hear! I am happy that not all Muslims feel that way about dogs.

 

It's been shown that because dogs have a higher base value (on the PH scale) content in their mouths that they in fact have less bacterial growth and germ matter than a human mouth does. Even so, human saliva on a wound does indeed help to heal it faster, just as cow saliva encourages the grass it eats to grow faster, and the same for dogs on wounds. More exposure to germs and to basic things a dog would bring with it strengthens the immune system by keeping it active, and as such it has an overall beneficial effect biologically (unless someone has a severely compromised immune system).


I allow my dog to sleep at the end of my bed at night as well. He keeps my feet warm. I respect him more than I respect most other humans, and humanity as a whole. He never deceives me, tricks me, hurts me, tries to steal, lie, or basically do anything bad - and he would give his life to protect me or my family. Dogs are a fundamental part of the human race dating back to before Muslims, Christians, Jews, beyond the societies, beyond Babylon. Dogs are the very reason we became better hunters, and helped us survive. By far our survival has in turn gifted them with survival as well, and for a country to turn its back on dogs is... to me... imprisoning them, putting them down... it's just ungrateful.

 

my views regarding this:
if a muslim want to have a dog or many dogs, so be it.
if a muslim want to deny dog in their houses, so be it.
they all have their own believe... they all have their way to understand islam.
in the end, they all will be judge, who is right, who is wrong.
and i hope, all of them are right, because God is merciful.

 

Islam does not prohibt the keeping of pets like dogs- common sense dictates human to wash after contact with saliva, snot and other body fluids- that be of a human or animal. Some Muslims think that by not keeping pets somehow makes them better muslims than others because they are more 'clean' when offering prayers