There is no way Google can do a complete ban/penalization of directories through.....

Discussion in 'Directories' started by PixelStreamed, Sep 22, 2007.

  1. #1
    This is my opinion and I wanted to discuss this:

    There is no way Google can do a complete ban/penalization of directories through it's algorithm without affecting other websites on the Internet also. Google will have to manually have some sort of human involvement for them to ban directories one at a time. I really believe this is a huge problem that Google recognizes and still can't find a solution to remedying (of course I have no proof unless I worked at Google) without having to manually ban/penalize one by one.


    The sheer amount of variables involved and size of the Internet makes it impossible to target one particular type of site without affecting other sites in a negative way through the algorithm or automation.
     
    PixelStreamed, Sep 22, 2007 IP
  2. workshop

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    I wouldn't be too sure about that. I cant see that it would be too difficult to target directories. What are they other than lists of links? But I think the question we need to ask is why we allowed it to get this messy and why we still allow and even encourage the scum bags to keep on peddling their soiled goods to an unsuspecting and often misguided public.
     
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    some of the members may not agree with this ,But what you say is absolutely true!

    that's why they are targeting major directories to send out a strong signal,

    But directories are here to stay

    V7n directory was not affected by Google,This clearly shows that directories were penalized only for buying too much links within a short period of time...
     
    Freewebspace, Sep 22, 2007 IP
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    Google aren't targeting directories alone, they are filtering search results for sites that they think sell links. Text link ads, and other link brokers are affected also.
     
    darrenlambert, Sep 23, 2007 IP
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    Not true. All 4 of my web directories are penalised, 2 of them are more strongly promoted, but optimumrank and pectom I'd stopped promoting to concentrate on the others. These aren't 'major directories', neither had they 'bought a lot of links in a short period of time'. I think owners who were actively promoting on this forum were part of the equation.
     
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  6. PixelStreamed

    PixelStreamed Peon

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    Wow. I wonder how those directories got targeted. Maybe Google picked a certain site where directories were promoted and penalized all the directories listed there.
     
    PixelStreamed, Sep 23, 2007 IP
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    msolution Well-Known Member

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    #7
    ooopps.... yet another directory bashing thread!

    [RANT]
    why cant people discuss this on one thread, and leave the topic, the topic is accross so many threads, any prspective buyer looking to buy, if he reads so much about this, wil not buy ....!

    stock markets go down, america went down in 1920! so what directories will come up, and assured it will be better, .... all we have to do is evolve and stand apart from the current notion of "link selling" industry!
    [/RANT]

    here is what i think,
    1. yahoo is a product oriented search engine,
    and Google is an information oriented search engine,
    they have time and again said
    "all the world's information to users seeking answers"

    now that said what information do directories give, information about other sites? is that it.... nothing else!
    put it down, and accept it u have no original information, and there by not suited for google!

    v7n is more than just a directory hence it is there!

    its not a question about how well promoted ur directory is,
    its a question about information,

    2.
    the core issue is ....well repeated more than often, ....spamy sites in your index, .... blah blah blah , u know all that!

    3. Randfish bluntly said in an interview aviva went down coz it bought "some" links from "bad neighbourhood", not coz of anything else,

    if seen aviva does have additional resources than just the directory!

    you have to ask your self if your directory has an additional resource, which is for the user who is browsing "Information", which can be better got from your site, than the one in the listing,

    evolution is calling ur door bell,.... either evolve, or go out the door!

    to end this, im just a newbie here (3 months and counting) im slowly understanding the business, but more as an outsider, this is my perspective!

    M.
     
    msolution, Sep 23, 2007 IP
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    DownUnder Well-Known Member

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    From another newbie, i can't see why people are shifting the blame to google at all, the whole plight of the bidding in the layout and consructions seems to be nothing more than a brain fart that went wrong, as they stand they were goinf to fall over anyway regadless of what another party done.

    The concept is fine the application is rubbish.
     
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    I was a prospective buyer once but decided it would make a lot more sense to build my own directories and lock in the long term value of the links I build. It doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure out whats happening nor why. But its not directory bashing, its chickens coming home to roost. And the reason it has to be repeated over and over again is because some people on this forum dont understand that its time out.
     
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    I think Rand Fishkin is in someway associated with this Just before Penalization on directories ,he met Matt Cutts a fortnight ago , he may have just spilled venom about directories to Cutts as he was bashed by us in thread after thread here and in V7n...
     
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    just a simple meta ban of things like paid links, paid directory, buy links, etc.

    I dont think it would be to hard.

    Sorta same thing like IRAQ war. US bombs iraq hoping to kill those ALALALALALA people. instead they kill thousands of others. in normal pplz words.... there will always be innocents.
     
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    I have heard this so often but it makes no sense. If they wanted to send out any type of strong 'message' they would make some sort of announcement and then all directory owners would be clear on what they must do or what penalties they must endure.
     
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    People just need some of their brains put in to use properly. It's not rocket science.
    School children needs guidance and announcements are made that includes homeworks, diaries, projects, teachers instructions, school principals announcements. For goodness sakes most guys are the best webmasters, can produce codes or even buy high pr links, promote a site. In short if many can do this a simple understanding would do the difference but many don't and still don't try to. Sometimes you just have to smell what is stinking and where it comes from and anyone would figure it out naturally with their sense of smell. And for the life of it Google does not do Baby Sitting. Almost all has hair in the armpits and inside the pants and I don't think a normal babysitter would take the job unless its a retard and could not get informal instructions or best pass the IQ test then they are not even worth using the computer.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    They did, no one was listening and that's when the Bid Directories really started buzzing.

    Had to snigger quietly at the way they ambushed the bad guys in the serp's.That was the last thing they were expecting. It was a smart move and its not the end of the story either. They are still feeding us rope and you still hear from the die-hards from time to time. But they are a little less cocky than they were.
     
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    Sure. :rolleyes: Let me know if they can stand alone and give any of the big 5 criticism of any sort. These are the fanatic radicals of whatever they say jump, bark, run they would do. :rolleyes:
     
    popotalk, Sep 23, 2007 IP