why will religious fanatics never listen?

Let me ask you this: Does the moon emit or reflect light?

If you answer that it emits light - you are wrong scientifically... but the bible says it does. Therefore, the bible is wrong. Thus, you must escape by trying to say "You cant take that literally". Well then, I don't have to take Genesis literally, because it states that in Genesis.

 

and where does it say in the Bible "the moon emits light?" You wouldn't be jumping to conclusions there would you?

 

Point 1 There is plenty of evidence. The only question is whether you are willing to accept it. Remember the old saying: "A man convinced against will is of the same opinin still."

You exist. Someone gave birth to you. You see a painting and even though you don't see the painter you know someone painted that painting.

You know evolution is crap especially since you can't start with nothing and then end up with something. (Big Bang theory) I mean come on, to expect someone to believe that the body with its intricate design with its millions and billions of cells all working in a magnificent order just happened?

Listen to what Darwin himself said:

To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.

Point 2
I don't know what major religions you are referring to. I am a Christian and of course I consider all others WRONG. When it comes to Christians remember the words of Jesus: "NOT EVERYONE (that means not everyone) who calls me Lord will enter into my kingdom but ONLY those who follow my Father's commandments who is in heaven" Matthew 7.21 I am hoping this will answer your question.

Point 3
There you go again: "You know what God?? I believe in you but I don't like your ways/commandments. I think MY WAY is better than yours. So I will do what I think and keep some of the commandments because hey, that's the way I like it. So this is my offer God and that's about all I have to say."

I thought I explained this earlier: If you play soccer no matter how nice of a guy you are and how much good you do to the community and how much you love your country and whatever else you may do, the fact remains when it comes to soccer and you want to win YOU MUST obey the soccer rules. No referree will allow a goal you scored in soccer with your hand because it contravenes the soccer rules. No matter how much of a great guy you may be: you score with your hand the goal will not be allowed. It's called playing by the rules. So you can make your own rules when it comes to God, but don't expect Him to approve of them. Making a god in your own image is one of the oldest sins in the Bible. It's called idolatry. So you can deceive yourself in any way you want, you can be unrepentant but remember what Jesus said: "NOT EVERYONE.....ONLY THOSE."

 

But - the moon is not a light. It is a reflector of light as it has no source upon it to create light, however... genesis states it is in itself a light. Therefore, the moment you say to take the bible literally science must be wrong. However, if you say it was "excuse about time period and or other things here" it means I can say Genesis is wrong.

 

You philosophy on "taking the Bible literally" is not entirely factual. For example, my analysis and study of the Bible reveals that some things in scriptures are to be viewed literally and others to be viewed symbolically. I can understand peoples viewpoints on the Bible when looking at it from afar. I mean "afar" by way of not really spending enough time to get a real understanding of its purpose and meanings.

Also, where exactly in Genesis are you quoting from?

 

so true, its going to be odd always

say if u believe in muslim relegion, would u start loving hindi or christain history and start following being a fanatic for it?

 

in answer to PHPGator, whom i was not actually targeting individually with my tirade, that was just a general rant, no scientist including myself would ever ram science down people's throats announcing that they have to believe it and that it is ultimate truth, we leave that to religion. as i have already said even professor stephen hawking admitted he was wrong, as do all scientists when another theory replaces the previous one. but the word theory is not used loosely meaning that it is in any way incorrect, the fundamentals of that theory have been scientifically proved by years of research but within that framework other more recent discoveries may well make minor changes or expand/reduce the original theory. no doubt einsteins laws of relativity are as correct today as when they were written. we cannot argue with the laws of time or gravity.
however, space is constantly changing, so discoveries are constantly being made, in this respect nothing is written in stone, but the 'big bang' theory has been researched by top physicists all over the world and they all agree on its findings.
but when i hear of parents brainwashing children to refute science and lobbying to have darwinism and modern physics removed from the curriculum i do become extremely angry. for would these selfsame parents refute all scientific discoveries, i.e. the discovery of penicillin and radium to treat life threatening illnesses. i think not. so their choice is selective yet at the same can be perceived as denigrating all science as anti-religious by their children. yet over the past few centuries it is science, not religion, that has helped this world progress. can religious people then not accept that if there is a god he certainly made it possible for such scientific discoveries to be made. i cannot see the problem with this compromise.

 

You must have met someone who was quite stupid or listening to hearsay about religious people. I have not yet met a Christian who is against or disbelieves science. Many Christians I have known are just as interested in scientific discovery as any non-christian. The only difference I see is whether someone believes any and all theory as fact or those who actually see theory as theory and law as law.

Seems the common thing here on DP is to say a Christian can't or doesn't believe in any scientific discover just because people don't believe the evolutionary religion.

 

fanatics do listen sometimes

 

i hope so birmingham, though right now it is those who impose fear and terror on innocent people all over the world who seem to have put in the ear plugs.
i don't think any prophet if they returned today would insist upon mindless obedience to a religion, and they would weep at the mindless violence that has been committed in their name. it is an obscenity to try and validate such actions by shouting 'allah akhbar' or announcing that it is 'god's will'. though i really do think that such people believe that if they keep shouting and announcing such things loudly enough they will drown out the screams of those they are killing.

 

Fanatism basically contradicts any form of consensus.