why will religious fanatics never listen?

Except for the fact that there is absolutely not a shred of undeniable evidence to support it. While there is overwhelming evidence it didn't happen.

You forgot that part.

 

As for the first point: I have done a lot of searching and once I came to a strong belief that I did find the answer how can you expect me to go back on it? Say for example you talk about USA but you've never been there and only heard talks about it. However, I also heard opinions and stories about USA. Later on I even visited USA so I experienced for myself what USA is like. Now that I did visit USA whether you like it or not the fact is I know MORE than you about USA. Of course you can argue my experience at the time I visited USA depended on who I talked to, what the weather was like etc. The point remains, I still know MORE than you. So I also was on the unbelieving side.

Second point: If I think you're wrong despite YOUR perceived superiority or rationality doesn't mean I am pig headed. It could simply mean YOU are too proud to see the other side's view or superiority. After all, it is agreed that Jesus is the wisest, most influential man that ever lived. If that's true, all other arguments against him are LESS influential.

Ingersoll a well-known atheistic writer referring to Jesus: "With Renan, I
believe Christ was the one perfect man. <Do unto others what you would that
they should do unto you> is the perfection of religion and morality. It is
the summum bonum. It was loftier than the teachings of Socrates, Plato,
Mohammed, Moses or Confucius. It superseded the commandments that Moses claimed to have gotten from God, for with Christ's <do unto others> there could be no murder, lying, covetousness, or war"

 

Then why are so many afraid to let intelligent design be taught in schools. If there is no evidence I mean. After all, what could be more logic than the Theory (remember the word theory and what it means) of Evolution??? Think about it: you start with nothing and all of a sudden you have an explosion and then everything comes together and forms a planet. And then you have a fish and then that fish becomes a man, or as some would call it the fish evolved into a man. I can't remember, who was talking about fairy tales before?

 

Secular governments are heavily invested in evolution theory. If people were allowed to learn history and science, Darwin's theory would fall apart and people would be lead to Bible. That would be the end of secular government. Here in the US, they just take your child and teach him evolution under threat of violence. When Hillary gets in the office they are going to outlaw homeschooling altogher

I went to a state-run school when I was a kid myself, by the time I graduated I completely believed in evolution and so did everyone else. And I never even read Darwin's work, I wonder if Darwin himself would agree with the interpretation of his theory as offered by the state educators. They don't give you any scientific evidence, the scheme works by repeating that evolution is true often enough for the child to believe it. Was is Goebbels who said that if you repeat a lie often enough it because the truth?

Then what happens is when somebody says something contrary, your adrenaline goes up and your mind gets blocked. I somehow got lucky and escaped this mindset in adult age, but it's rarely the case

 

I know the answer to the question!

They won't listen because..... they are fanatic!
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fanatic
"A person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause."

 

With a child it only takes one time. They don't teach children in school to question anything they are taught - I ask my kids "are you sure?" a lot and make them back up what they are saying with evidence and not just repeat something. Try it with anyone- next time they tell you something as fact as them "are you sure?" and make them give you proof, it takes the steam out of the know-it-all.

 

It requires faith to believe whatever it is that you may believe in, even if you say you do not believe or identify yourself with a religion. Do you not find yourself wondering if there is a God? Surely you think there is at least some type of chance that there might be one. Your faith is based in believing that there isn't one.

 

i do not profess that there is no god, only that i have no real evidence one, so the jury will be out on that one until i die i suppose, until then i will remain unsure.
and if there was a god do you suppose that the main religions today are a fair representation of him? for certainly no major religion is winning my vote right now.
oh, and another question, if i continue this way, remaining undecided, yet always trying to do good by my fellow man and be fair and equal to all others, notwithstanding the fact that fanatically religious individuals might be intolerant towards me, will god see me as any less than a person who has read the holy text over and over and prayed every day and night of his life, yet has behaved unfairly and intolerantly towards others?

 

everyone has their own special points to make, m sure each one from their religion has lot of books, mystries, myths, beliefs and full fledged information to pump up and start arguing, which would go endless

 

It appears to me you are being fairly intolerant as well based on the subject of this thread. That doesn't bother me though, and certainly christians should do most of their witnessing through their actions and not their words. Anyone can say that they "shouldn't being doing A, B, and C" but actually staying away from them is a totally different story for many people. Everywhere you go, regardless of being religious or not, you see this happen.

 

i don't mind being called intolerant if it means i accept the major scientific discoveries of our age and don't believe that educating our younger generation is a dangerous thing because it replaces myth with fact.
i had the privilege earlier this year of actually seeing professor stephen hawking deliver a lecture at cambridge university, in which he spoke at length about the scientific discoveries he has made, which are not fiction, but backed up by years of painstaking research by both himself and many more in his field, but more than this when he was proved incorrect a few years ago on a particular subject - not the big bang, a lesser discovery - he held a conference in which he apologised to the scientific community. so he will accept that he can be wrong.
as all scientist do. however, the main scientific theories regarding black holes, the big bang, and the origin of species - though this isn't in my field, remain firm scientific facts.
how anyone could ever dispute the works of such learned and dedicated individuals is beyond me, let alone cheating their own children of the theories they put forward. shame on you.

 

Aren't you a christian?

 

jude, do you understand the difference between a scientific theory and a scientific law? Our children are already taught what the evolution THEORY and big bang THEORY are. I'm certainly not depriving any children of anything. I'm in favor of making our children well known of the common theories. I'm not in favor of portraying them as fact.

thoery - a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b : an unproved assumption

The difference between an actual hypothesis and theory is nothing more than that there may be some evidence that the theory is true. But because of lack of testing and facts on the topic, you can't claim it as law or as truth. The "Big Bang Theory" and the Law of Gravity can not even put in the same sentence. The view of creationism is as much of a viable theory as evolution is.

As a christian, I do not really totally avoid the assumption that the Big Bang Theory could be fact, but at this point, we shouldn't just make the assumption that it is.

 

Like I have said before, I am a Christian. Do you want my head on a platter?

 

it's just strange that someone who insists on asking their kids for "evidence" believes something completely when evidence is the last thing he is able to produce. Oh wait, That's right, You are one of them fraudulent hypocritical christians. No worries, as you were.

 

Dude, you might as well go argue with yourself or georgeb, since you don't have a clue to anything you talk about here.

I am always looking for proof for everything, I enjoy science, but I also make sure I research something before claiming proof or law. Something you might want to try - research, it would do your arguments wonder.

 

So you don't think it's hypocritical for you to ask your kids for evidence to support their claims when you hold beliefs that don't offer a single shred of evidence?

Do as i say, Not as i do. - The mantra of the religious (the bogus, fraudulent hypocritical ones anyway).

 

Sorry if you can't see the evidence, that is your own fault for not looking. Nothing hypocritical about asking for proof.
Talk about being hypocritical, you won't even look or worse if someone had shown you something you probably ignored it.

Also, reverse that, you believe in the big-bang and have no evidence to back it up as fact.

 

lmao i love that line, I "can't see the evidence". You are right, I can't see it. Know why? because it doesn't exist, it's all in your imagination. And if you had the courage to be honest for once in your life you would admit that you can't see the evidence either. You simply claim to be able to as a defence.

I would love it if your kids said that to you one day when you asked them for evidence "pff, You just can't see the evidence, dad. Now go back to talking to your invisible-sky-buddy."

By the way, I don't believe the big bang is an absolute definite certainty, I believe it's a likely cause.

 

Why will religious fanatics never listen?
Its a stupid question. If they would listen they would not be fanatic.