Have you ever wonder about the existent of GOD?

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im not sure whats it to do with rich and poor in this thread ?

 

I examined but never doubted. Its very obvious that intelligence is behind creation.

The Bible has nothing to do with it for me.

 

I put forth, that intelligence was not behind creation. If it was - explain OJ or MJ or N-Sync?

 

Trying to draw paralels sometimes is illogical. US didn't drop a bomb so they can take over Japan. US does not do this on a regular basis. US is not looking for the next lot of infidels to bomb. Or are you just hell bent on throwing all religions in the same basket?

And there you go again: "big brother, big mullah, big papa, big rabbi, they all demand the same levels of mindless obedience and equally mindless violence" So tell me, when you wait in line at the airports is it because of the Jews, or Christians that you are scared? But since we're on the subject, tell me of a more desirable general rule than: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." This is coming from a religious dude. Tell me, how can you top that rule?

 

Nope. When I was younger of course, Until I grew to an age where I realised religion didn't off any answers.

 

by relegion i am supposed to believe that god exists, i need to do pray , worship idol, and lot more relegious stuff.

but ive always felt whats the point in this, god never woke up and told anyone im here.

its us humans who have made the term "god"

 

And what I fine specimen you turned out to be. The one exception in the family. I think this also happened as you grew up. The thing is, in your case I don't think growing up necessarily means improvement. I know you will take this as an insult even though I am no meaning it at all as an insult. I just think you should maybe rethink who is influencing you. You know the Sunday school lesson: "NO ONE (that means no one) can serve two masters."

When you get born in this world you have a natural love for physical things: money, women, cars, houses ,etc. That is normal as you were born in a physical way. When you get Born Again you start having a love for spiritual things: praying, worshipping God, going to church etc. This is what Born Again simply means.

You got to follow someone. In your case you follow your own beliefs and that is a choice that you can make, but in the end will have an impact on your eternity.

 

i do follow my relegion but thats to make my parents happy, but slowly im moving towards my own direction , letting them know that im not so much interested in the things which i have to follow forcefully.

 

I serve myself, I am man, and I am my own god. To serve myself I make money, I further myself, I grow, I self educate, I read, I become better and more well informed. To not do so and blindly follow faith of church decrees to me is worthless. I have never smoked, I have never drank, I have never done drugs, committed a crime, or been in serious trouble with any authority. As you can see, your God did not teach me to be what I am - my family did, and I did. I choose to be who I am, I choose to never drink, I choose to never smoke, do drugs, commit crimes, be a jerk to people, use people, take advantage of them - yet I still plan to rule the world.

 

Two questions mr goodie goodie:

Have you ever told a lie?

and the second question after you answer the one above

What do you call someone who tells lies?

 

Have you ever told a lie? I'm sure you have, as I have. Thus you and I are liars. The difference? I am not a sinner - as I have nothing to sin on but myself.

 

ull rule the world ?

 

The question was addressed to you. So since you are a liar (as stated by none other than yourself) how do I know when you are telling the truth?

Do you even know what a sin/sinner is? I would love to hear your explanation of what a sin/sinner is.

 

Basically it is what you define it as. Also, I take nothing you say as true either - so touche` my dear Watson. I speak truth, but you can take it with a grain of salt. You speak zealotry - I'll take that with a fluff of dust.

A sinner is someone who obviously breaks whatever religious code is in effect for them. I.E. some believe the fact you are born is a sin (I.E. Original Sin from the disobeyment of God) while others believe immoral acts are disobeying god, and as such are sins. Some people believe all Christians are sinners and should and are going to hell. Others believe all polytheist and non Christians are sinners and are going to hell. Some people believe Xenu commands them to give all they have - or else they sin against the great Xenu.

You're trying to trap me in a loop of logical fallacy, and I am afraid it doth not work. For betwixt my ears I have the most infallible and valuable tool available to me that I use as I wish to use, not as anyone else wishes me to. I am what I wish to be, without wishing to be - because how could I wish to be something unless it was wishing to be different?

I, am, a liar. I am a human. I am feeble in body as is the human condition, aging and slowly dying my whole life, strong in mind until it goes, enter the world and leave it the same, drooling and mindless, as all humans who die old will one day likely go out. You. You are human. You have lied. Thus, I can label you a liar too - and everything you have ever said on this site about yourself, or about anything you have ever done could be a lie.

 

I am not trying to trap you into anything. I was just surprised how good you think you are. I get the feeling that if I ask you some other questions such as whether you stole anything your reply will again be: "Like you (you meaning proteindude) I also stole something once (or twice)." That would make you (proteindude) and me (Jackuul) a thief.

And then if I asked you if you ever lusted after a woman, or if you ever hated someone, I may get the same answers: "Like you, I also...."

Sin simply means transgression of God's law. If there is no Law, there can be no Law breaking. For example, no one can fine me for brushing my teeth at 9am because there is no law against this.

Yes I WAS a liar but I no longer lie. That is because I am afraid of going to a place where love and water is missing and where the temperature is always on high (very high, extremely high). Let's face it: "Like you, I will also be part of the ultimate statistic which is 10 out of 10 die."

You can put your trust in your insignificant self. Many people do that, they trust in self.

I choose to trust in the most influential man of all time whose name is Jesus Christ. Talking about logic, doesn't make sense to trust THE most influential (Jesus) over a LESS influential (Jackuul)? Just a simple question. because anyway you try to argue it you are LESS influential.

 

you have to be very careful that in your zealous following of your chosen path you are not casting all others aside.
you seem to believe implicitly that you are superior to all others due to your chosen faith, and it is this dude that makes you so dangerous.
you even state that the bombing of hiroshima was right in that it benefited the many, a fact that even the military feel queasy about accepting so long after the event.
just because you feel so sure of your faith doesn't mean that others should feel likewise or that other religious groups should by the same token not be permitted to feel as sure as you about their chosen faith.
you see those fanatical muslims blowing up innocent westerners probably feel as zealous as you and can state just as good an argument as to how their violence benefits the many as you can.

 

Equalling my religion(Christianity) with another religion (Islam) doesn not even deserve a reply. Without being rude I don't believe a dude who makes this type of comparison and believes in it is capable of understanding the difference. Again, it seems to me you're hell bent on equalling all "religions" and as such, there is no argument to that. You just can't (I can't) explain colour to a blind man.

 

If at all heaven exists going to it would be based on purity of heart not what religion you follow. Jesus was a messenger of God and even people from other religion accepts it, but when you say he was the only messenger of God, that sucks.
I think all major religion will end by end of this century and practical spirituality will replace them of course it would require blood bath, destruction of countries and continent.
Just becuase you believe all your past, present and future sins are forgiven by someone will not take you to heaven since one can continue to be like hitler and think anyway someone is there to forgive his sins.
So heaven would be full of millions of hitlers.
By the way who wants to go to a heaven full with corrupt preachers parroting good things but not practicing them in their own life.

 

Please dont use Mother Theresa in your analogy. She did not what she did because she was trying to do good. She was very cynical and did what she did to get as many people to get christian as possible. This info is from her own mouth, she told this before she died.