What Republican candidate do you support for President in 2008?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by omgitsfletch, Sep 19, 2007.

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Which candidate do you like the best so far? Justify answers in thread.

  1. Sam Brownback

    3.1%
  2. Rudy Guiliani

    21.9%
  3. Mike Huckabee

    3.1%
  4. Duncan Hunter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Alan Keyes

    3.1%
  6. John Mccain

    3.1%
  7. Ron Paul

    46.9%
  8. Mitt Romney

    9.4%
  9. Tom Tancredo

    3.1%
  10. Fred Thompson

    6.3%
  1. #1
    Hey guys, I wanted to see who people were interested for in 2008. If enough people ask for it, I'll make another one for democratic candidates. I figured at least until the primaries, best to keep them split (also, polls cant have more than 10 choices!)
     
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  2. omgitsfletch

    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    Well, I suppose I'll start off some of my reasons:

    - Against the Iraq war
    - Never voted to raise taxes
    - Main campaign goal is restoration of the Constitution, which has been trampled in recent years for the War on Terrorism

    To those who say he's unelectable:

    -Most studies are showing that anywhere from 50% to 75% of America wants us out of Iraq immediately, or in the very near future, with the beginnings of pulling out troops starting near immediately. How can a Republican candidate hope to win the election against the Democrats when the majority of the country wants us to start getting out of Iraq?
    -He's won more straw polls than any other candidate.
    -Although old style telephone polls show no support, these polls only take into account former Republican primary voters with landline telephones. Ron Paul has a lot of vocalized support from disenfranchised Democrats, Libertarians, young/first time voters, and going with the young argument, a lot of those voters don't own landline telephones either. I myself fit into at least 2 of these categories, and I've changed parties from Independent to Republican solely to vote in the primaries. I've also convinced at least 3 of my closest friends to do the same.
     
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  3. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    I'm voting for Ron Paul, a real conservative.
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #4
    Say, this restoration of the Constitution, does it include the restoration of the second ammendment also?
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Ron Paul will clean up on the islamic vote. I believe he's the only candidate openly campaigning on deliberately and willfully going out of his way to not protect America.

    I like quite a few of them on the list.
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I always find this funny. For some reason, the only time people that pretend to care about the Constitution, raise it as an issue is, when they believe it will benefit terrorists.

    Funny that people keep proving me right on this, without even having to ask them!
     
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    Haha, GTech finally mans up and picks a candidate. Huckabee.

    I almost want to take him off ignore to talk to him about Huckabee's key policy on fighting the insurgent force of divorce.
     
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  8. omgitsfletch

    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    #8
    Yes.

    He wants a non-interventionist policy, and concentrating on protecting our borders at home rather than fighting pointless wars abroad. If 20 million Mexicans can get in no problem, what's to stop some well-funded, well-to-do Islamic extremists from accomplishing the same goal, and they don't want jobs, they want our destruction. The more troops here and concentration we have about our country, the better off we'll be.

    He also hates the Patriot Act, Real ID, suspension of habeas corpus, and any other unconstitutional intrusion into our personal liberties. People said the Patriot Act was bad because it would be abused for things other than catching terrorists, and surprise surprise, they were right. Sometimes the worst threat to our country's well-being and survival as a nation is not from the crazy Muslim guy with the plane, it's the guy in the office in Washington who thinks he's saving America when he's really destroying everything it's founded upon.
     
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    tesla Notable Member

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    Yeah, Ron Paul realizes that we need to protect our borders instead of invading countries thousands of miles away. Bush is supposedly "fighting them over there before they get us here" meanwhile we've got more than 500,000 people crossing over our border each year, and one of them could have a nuke or bio weapon......
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Finally? Heh! Just had this same discussion with you a few weeks ago. He is one of several I like. Since I can only pick one, I did.

    I'm sure it's a better policy then writing letters to terrorists saying "please don't hurt us anymore" and using mall guards as a first line of defense for America :rolleyes: What islamist wouldn't adore that weak foreign policy?

    I believe you're better off with having me on ignore. I don't like you and I especially don't like how you seek to tear down my country as your only mission here.

    Besides, I find it very flattering. You only want to see comments by those that tear American down, day in and day out. Since you will never stand up for your country, and don't like those that do, you are better off with me on your ignore list.

    Besides, it makes it easier to point these things out about you, without you trying to pretend that tearing your country down is the new definition of patriotism. If that were the case, you'd the biggest patriot I know ;)
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Everyone is concerned about border security. I know of no candidate who hasn't made it an issue. If that's your real concern, Tom Tancredo is your man.

    What you are espousing is a defensive posture. We're on the offensive. This is the difference between a man that would protect his family if someone threatened them with death, vs the man that would cower in the corner saying "please don't kick me."

    The Patriot Act serves to thwart terrorism. Only people who want a level playing field for terrorists make it an issue.

    I don't feel sorry for, nor am I sympathetic to terrorists. I ask again, what personal liberty have you lost? That usually tends to quieten down the dishonest people who "feel" they've lost something, but have no idea what it is.
     
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    After reading that Gtech picked Huckabee, I decided to do a bit of research on him. It didn't take me long to realize this guy is hardly a conservative or Republican. Check out this tid bit from Wiki:

    Huckabee on Illegal Immigration:

    Huckabee has been criticized for supporting illegal immigration.[38] In his 2005 State of the State address, he complained that a Hispanic student was not able to get financial aid because he was an illegal alien. Huckabee said: "But when he applied for financial aid, he wasn’t eligible for the various scholarships or grants because of his status, a status that he had no decision in or control over." [39] [40] Huckabee vehemently opposed a 2005 bill sponsored by Arkansas State Senator Jim Holt which would deny state benefits to illegal immigrants, calling it "un-Christian." [41] Huckabee argued that illegal immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits: "They pay fuel taxes. If they're using a fake Social Security number, they're paying Social Security taxes and will never receive any benefit.

    Huckabee spends too much money:


    Huckabee has been criticized for his fiscal record as governor.[19][20] [21] [22] He increased state spending 65.3 percent from 1996 to 2004.[citation needed] He also supported 5 tax increases, prompting the Club for Growth to accuse him of being a liberal in disguise.[23] The Cato Institute, a libertarian non-profit public policy research foundation,[24] gave him an F grade for spending and tax policy in 2006, and an overall grade of D for his governorship.[25] During his tenure, the number of state government workers in Arkansas increased over 20 percent, and the state’s general obligation debt shot up by almost $1 billion.


    I will give you credit Gtech, he isn't as bad as Mitt Romney, so you're doing a bit better........
     
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    From what I read, Huckabee doesn't seem to be. It looks like he supports illegal immigration.
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #15
    Brownback or huckabee...if I had to chose.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    And most certainly not as bad as Ron Paul.

    Remember though, unlike most of the pacifists here who believe America deserves to be spanked, National Security is my number one issue.

    As such, I could never vote for Ron Paul. His national security policy would have us going from offensive, to sitting around waiting for an attack, then sitting down to write a nice letter asking them not to do it again.
     
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    #17
    Huckabee will support whatever he is told to support, just like every other lemming candidate in there, Paul is the only exception, the only one that isn't a dumb lapdog, which is why he hasn't got a hope in hell of getting the G.O.P nod.

    It will be Americas Fake Mayor that gets the nod. America's Fake Mayor versus a Clinton.

    As there has been a corrupt Clinton or a corrupt Bush running (or should that be ruining ;)) the USA for decades now there is no prize for guessing who will win. :eek:
     
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    Ron Paul beats Huckabee on Spending and the Immigration issue. Paul is against increased government spending, and he supports tough border control. Ron Paul slaughters Huckabee in these two areas, and if these guys were boxers, Ron Paul would beat the living daylights out of Huckabee because of these two weaknesses.

    Actually, Ron Paul would have us on the defensive, by protecting our borders, which Huckabee isn't likely to do. Also, with Huckabee in office, the U.S. economy would really take a dive, since he apparently can't manage money. Ron Paul, on the other hand, is brilliant in economics, and I'm surprised he isn't an economist.

    I hope and pray this scenario doesn't play itself out, because Giuliani will get buried by Hillary, and even if he were to somehow win, the country would collapse.
     
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    I very much doubt he could manage a wank. :eek:
     
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    I'm not a Republican but I do support Ron Paul to some extent because he's so refreshing and he's right on a lot of issues that most Republicans are wrong on (Iraq being an obvious example.)

    It's great to hear a politician that actually tells the truth. Compare Ron Paul to Rudy G for example. Rudy G is the type of guy who's never told the truth in his entire life. It's amazing to me that people respect someone like that. I honestly thing Rudy G may actually be a worse president than Bush (if that's possible.)
     
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