Iranians digging their own grave... and ours.

dr rice is in me again ask her
it is very stupid to think you can have peace in the middle of a war

 

He gets seriously pwned mate.

Because many people here are Bush lovers and warmongerers I get lots of negative rep here, you will find that will happen to you too. The red rep posse will do this to you just like they always do against anyone that does not support the terrorists Bush and Cheney. But keep up the fight against these chumps, they tried to nail me when I first came to P&R but I'm still here.

Here is another classic thread of mine showing how the so-called "expert" Davin Coburn gets his ass totally pwned for not having a clue what he is talking about.

Not one member of GTech's crazy gang replied lol.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=451786

 

I don't understand your answer at all. Is it suppose to be some sort of sarcastic answer or ???

 

It's interesting, typically users on the internet are more Democratic. Maybe because this forum has a lot more ties to business, it draws a lot of the Republican crowd? In any case, that brings up an interesting question for a new thread.

//BRB

 

Yes he was. Here is an article I wrote about him in July...
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/310426/a_response_to_president_of_iran_ahmadinejads.html

 

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hxuqac9hsV3vZkpDSJlcAcJjjgFw

 

The problem is that what we may call a terrorist group (notice this article is disputed for neutrality), because they use guerrilla tactics or whatever, is that small organizations or groups don't have the means to use the type of tactics of a larger group or country.

The style of warfare is different, but the end goals may be very similar.

We want to "destroy" or change certain governments, ie Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, the Soviet Union and so do many of the "terrorist groups". I'm sure we would have been called a "terrorist group" prior to the Revolutionary War, while we called ourselves something much more noble, such as Patriots or Revolutionists.

We need to keep this in mind.

 

ter·ror·ism (těr'ə-rĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key

n. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

 

Now the point of contention here is whether the United States and Bush in particular sought to truly defend our nation, or to suit their own interests in the Middle East, by attacking Iraq. But it is funny that depending on how you look at it, it's not difficult to apply the definition of terrorism to the US

 

I also predict lottery numbers, if anyone is interested

 

Ofcourse i don't.
How's the training goin' for ya ? How many missiles have you launched today ?

Again i tell you, nincompoop, that i don't think my country is great.
HOWEVER, i do think Syria is a shit hole and it must be controlled from crazy bastards such as your leader (and yourself, for that matter).

That's what she said

Go back to your cave, and stop making threats.

 

That might be due to the fact that most normal people here don't consider your posts worthwhile - that is, they don't give a fuck.

 

Yep. I personally don't have time to respond to all his attempts to absolve terrorists of their crimes. There's too many terrorist groups he defends...more time than any single person has here.

AGS, setup a legal defense fund for all your buds. Put your money where your mouth is

 

I freaking love how GTech gets owned everytime it truly makes my day! ha

 

It is because you idiots cannot be arsed to listen to any clips I have posted because it doesn't fit your way of thinking.

 

Right, back to that.

I'm sure there are many reasons for attacking or invading Iraq (some told to the public, some not), but I find that the credibility of this administration has worn quite thin. The original "reasons" for going there turned out to be false.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the latest reason is to remove a bad government and free a repressed people and to bring "stability" to the region.

First of all, what right do we have to displace any leadership? Are we the world's police force? How about sealing up our own porous borders instead of jumping from one suspected "terrorist funder" after another. What about Libia, China, Russia and many other countries directly or indirectly selling arms and conducting training. Much of the arms get funneled to non-desireable groups anyway.

Second, what about all the other countries in the world with bad leadership? Why didn't we help in Rwanda or stay longer in Somalia?

Third, I'd say we've done anything BUT bring stability to the region. This is instability is spreading to other countries. If we do attack Iran, then where does this end? Syria? North Korea? Eventually a big country like China will jump in...and not on our side.

Ironically, the very reason for attacking Iran is because we "suspect" they'd use nuclear weapons. So far, we're the only ones that has used them. To stop WW II? The war was effectively over, Japan was defeated. What about Pakistan and its nuclear weapons? Oh wait, they're an ally (sort of).

I find it funny how we'll use tough guy tactics as long as we feel like we'd win, but when it comes to the threats of Russia or China, we threaten an embargo at most.

• 
  Russia has a huge amount of nuclear weapons, but has a very unstable government, a fragile economy (so could be a major threat), and yet we walk on egg shells around them.

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  China owns much of the US property, owns a billions and billions in US currency, has a trade surplus on the US, and has a formidable military. We have a strategic concern with them for all of these reasons, but the fact that they sell dangerous toys, are involved in trademark infringement and piracy, continue to threaten Taiwan and Japan, and have a questainable human rights practice. Egg shells again.

As a side note, when I was in the US Navy, the Stark was damaged heavily by two Exocet missiles. These missiles were sold to Iraq by the US, while the same leadership was in place in Iraq, as when we started this war. Same with the chemical weapons, mines, and other technology. What about the School of the Americas. Remember that? Again, mining the harbor of Managua? Act of war by anyones book. Yet, it's ok for us.

Things are not black and white. I know that to fix a problem we sometimes use questionable means before it gets bigger. Often the intelligence community practices "black hat" tactics to keep our view of the world rosie and our ability to buy that big 52 inch flat screen tv a reality. When it comes to this, there is very little moral ground to stand on; bleeding heart liberal and extremist conservatives included.

All of you on either side of the isle need to keep that in mind.

 

Wrong, all of us owe Israel a GREAT DEAL!
I have to agree with you on most things you have said DevilHellz except saying Israel owe America a lot! Israel is now and has always been our greatest allie in the middle east. They have put their people and their nation on the line several times in the last sixty years and their actions have say thousands if not millions of life for America, Britain's, and several other nations around the middle east for sure. Like I said DevilHellz, I just about agree with all you've said tonight, but we, the world owe Israel more than they're every know. Don't sat on your hands thinking Iran or a few of the other middle Easter countries wouldn't love to drop a nuclear bomb on Israel. They live for that day. But the man up stairs says other wise, he's going to drag every one of those little idiots to the valley in Israel and give them one hell of war. So brothers and sisters, I love America, Israel and all people around the world,trouble is some of them are blind just like they where back in the days of hitler.I think the U.S.A. and Israel should give Iran and Syrian what they want, they have already prove they are both helping kill our men and women in Iraq, so give'em hell! That my two cents worth. Everyone have a good night and remember to pray for all of the servicemen over their on our side.

 

Very impressive post, Joe. Most refreshing, to say the least. I agree, we do owe Israel a debt of gratitude.

 

My friend, first of all I don't agree with everything Bush and Cheney do or act on. I voted both times for President Bush but I do not or will not every agree with everything he does.I think he screw up keeping Rumsfields over the military for so long but the whole worlds mess up and they're not going to be no peace no matter who's in power, read the book of knowledge, the Bible! Second of all, you call us American's and others here a bunch of warmongers, well remember your statement tonight well. Because the people over their are voting to join the EU Union and they will hand over their nation and their power to join that union and they would be find, if we all didn't already know you can give man that kind of power. Like your statement says at the end

"The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."

and that my friend is what the union will do with all that power. So what will you and others want to say when this comes about but will be scary to because of the fear of losing your life's. Remember your statement and may God have mercer on all of us!

 

How and more specifically, when?