What would the world be like without the Quran?

While I'm no fan of religion I do believe it has its place simply because the masses out there require something to believe in because many of them have such stuffed up lives they have to believe in something better is out there and religion is there key to that.

Me who is scored by religion is defending it. who would of thought

 

All Religion teaches good things to grow our own trust.

So that is not fact that only Islam.......

 

I wonder what the definition of "good" is in Islam? Blowing up innocent folks, hating the Jews, chopping off the heads of infidels.... We are told the West does not "understand" Islam. I don't. So I am wondering if someone could explain. Because the west's definition of "good" seems to be a little different from that of Islam.

 

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Great post!

 

well i do not love the book, nor i have read it, but its just respect for all the relegions, its sometimes logical no relegion in this world exist that would teach crime or destruction.

 

i see religion as a means to brainwash a people into submission, sorry but that is my take on it, perhaps because anyone i have ever met who is religious will never ever see sense on a particular subject simply because they read about it in a religious text or were told it by a religious leader. it is this total lack of comprehension when it comes to hard scientific facts, refuting what has already been proved and accepted by the scientific world, and quoting stories that have no factual foundation that lead me to compare it to brainwashing, as used by totalitarian states like norther korea.
i could be wrong, but then just take a look at iran, and compare it to italy during its glory days when catholicism reigned over much of europe, see any parallels there, i.e. burning non-believers, forming an inquisition that prohibited just about everything.
for this reason religion is dangerous, very very dangerous, moreso than any supposed possession of weapons of mass destruction or nuclear capability.

 

I tend to agree. A majority of war worlwide and historically have been in place because of religion...

 

Yeah, and it'd have been even better without the Bible, or the Gita or any other religious book for that matter.

 

I admit it: I have been brainwashed. My brain was so dirty it neded some washing. We all follow someone's ideas whether we like to admit it or not. I used to think I was "free" but then I realised a lot of things that had strongholds in my life. For some it may have been alcohol, infidelity, homosexuality, pornography, lying, deceiving, using people for own benefits, hate etc. For me religion has been a good thing. I would rather follow the comandments and ideas of the greatest dude that ever lived Jesus Christ than follow anyone else's ideas. Or as a matter of fact still follow the world's #1 book (the Bible). Based on facts, everything else is second best.

 

proteindude are you suggesting that a personal choice in life like drinking alcohol or being gay somehow equates with one of the world's biggest organised religions? i don't get it.
religion gives you no choice, other than the choices it prescribes for you.
you feel glad that religion brainwashed you, most adherents do, and then feel equally joyful when they massacre non-believers.
religion is all about control and manipulation, which is why it is so popular in world politics right now.
it gives people an unquestionable mandate to occupy others lands and slaughter innocents.

 

I am just wondering which religion you are refering to. It's simple: I (I is me, proteindude) am a fool for Jesus. The question is, whose fool are you?

 

I guess the OP has never read the Quran.

Tell me which book has been memorized from cover to cover and letter by letter by children as young has 5 years old? The Quran.

Dr. Moore said:

There are many other miracles of the Quran. Too many to list...
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/index2.html


I have to agree with some of the posters in this thread that said, all religions teach peace but it's those few who interpret these teachings in the wrong way. For those who say "all religions are evil", you are clearly ignorant. In an academic debate this argument will never carry forward.

 

you said a book read from cover to cover and memorized by children as young as five?
what better proof of brainwashing is needed?
is it not better for children to read newtons 'principia' or hawkings 'a brief history of time' or what about einsteins 'laws of relativity', or even aristotle's 'ethics'.
if they want fairy tales, they should try the brothers grimm.

 

Well observed. Maybe the arguement will be that it has only around 200 pages.

 

yeah like mao's 'little red book' that was religiously read and memorized by children as young as five as well.
will we never learn?

 

Jude, you don't understand. Why are you being so negative about it? Brainwashing? The thing is many don't even understand what they read so where is the brainwashing? It's an Arabic book and only 18% of Muslims are Arabs and EVEN then some Arabs don't understand the language used in the Quran.

Fairy Tales? This is your assumption and a wrong one. There are stories in the Quran that teach you lessons just like any other religious book. There are other FACTS of life/universe in the Quran that no other book has. One example, embryology, scientists agree that the Quran was AHEAD of its times. Read up on that link I posted.

 

i think that there are far more up to date scientific publications to read, and as for the lessons the koran can teach us, i would assume that we are an enlightened enough race to have learnt a value system that does not have to be drilled into us by a religious leader.
the thing is that people are reading a book almost two thousand years old that takes references from both the torah and the bible, and they then try to make it fit with today's society. and i don't just target islam here, but judaism and christianity. and of course because the koran is open to interpretation if the book doesn't fit then people make it fit, as you are doing now.
people laugh at cult religions like 'the church of scientology' because it claims that we are not from this planet but from outer space. but is any other religion more believable.
'jesus was not born of man but concieved by immaclulate conception'!
so god impregnated a mortal woman and the prophet was part human part god!
and no, that is not the koran, before you point it out. but i am sure the koran quotes the old chestnut about 'adam and eve' for i have heard muslims talk of it. and that is yet another story that can only be believed by seriously brainwashed individuals!

 

To you it's brainwashing, to others it's a way of life.

Muslims too believe that Jesus was born without a father. He was a miracle. That's the thing with folks, they don't understand the greatness of God. He can do anything he wishes. If he can put life on earth, he can surely take away life.

please use paragraphs next time.

 

when it comes to taking life away god surely taught those he made in his own image pretty darned well.
we have been taking people's lives, homes, and lands, away for centuries in the name of religion.

 

Maybe it is time you stopped then... what religion are you representing these days?