The violent rent-a-killer company Blackwater is finally thrown out of Iraq by USA. This is one of the worst "private security" company in the world and should never have been in Iraq in the first place. But the USA was so in a hurry that they had to send anything they could. Lets hope there will be fewer civilians killed now.
Here's one: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...sep18,1,3358790.story?coll=la-headlines-world Blackwater employees work with fewer restrictions than U.S. military but for double or triple the pay. Firms like Blackwater make it easier for this administration to increase the levels of U.S. soldiers without any oversight from Congress, because they are not officially U.S. military troops.
Sometimes it's a lot more then double or triple... For some of them, their pay is disgustingly high...
I read it this morning. From how it read, basically they were doing what they were hired to do...protecting a convoy, that was attacked. If only the Iraqi leadership would take such a harsh role with terrorists, and kick them out of Iraq as well.
If they are banned here is what will happen. Every Blackwater guy in Iraq and in logistics somewhere else will be hired up by another contracting firm. Every necessary piece of equipment will be sold to another contracting firm. The US military will step in to see that this transfer is made in an orderly fashion without losing any of the contractor services that they feel is necessary. A banning of Blackwater would have virtually no impact. (IMHO)
That's what I took from the article, they were bombed, they came under attack and they defended themselves and they’re the bad guys?
From what I saw, I'd agree... I'm not sure why the IZ parliment is taking such a stance against these guys now... But who knows, maybe there's something about this incident that we don't know... Except costing the US taxpayer a tad more money...
Very well could be. I've come to expect that first reports on major incidents there, are not always the most accurate. But the report did read that way. I'd rather pay a bit more for "hired" guns to take greater risks. Goes back to what we always seem to find agreement in...that saving soldiers lives is important.
Agreed. I think I miscommunicated before.. By "costing the tax payer a tad more", I meant the transition of blackwater equipment and personnel would cost more; I wasn't referring to their salaries in that sentence...
Hmmm. So now GSpot thinks it's ok to hire mercenaries to protect the American people. Maybe Ron Paul was onto something with his letters of Marque and Reprisal.
Are the soldiers lifes worth more than the mercenaries lifes? It is USA who are kicking blackwater out, not Iraq. USA kick out their own hired killers. I find that funny. earlpearl is right, those same mercenaries will get back in there under other companies names.
Now? I've never been against augmenting US Forces. What I'm opposed to, is weak old men that cater in kookey conspiracy theories and believe national security means sitting down and writing a letter to our enemies after they attack us. If you were abused as a child and as an adult, carry around guilty feelings of needing to be spanked by a father figure, RP is your candidate There's absolutely no way to spin the yellow spine of RP. Lives. Good question, are they? I seem to recall you referred to them as "violent rent-a-killers." Would you like to pretend you care now? I'm flexible, let me know. That's not the report I read this morning. I read that Iraqi officials were doing the booting. If you go back to my first response in this thread and read the second sentence, you'll see I had that perception at the time.
They were asked to leave because they had a total disregard of civilian life. They killed a bunch of civilians. Whenever their convoys were attacked, they would randomly shoot at everything, including the civilians that were nearby and they simply did not care. I wonder what you would say if private mercenaries were shooting everywhere whenever they felt threatened and shot your entire family. Would you still say that you are not sure why the "IZ parliment is taking such a stance against these guys now"???
Are we talking about Blackwater or the insurgent groups in Iraq? Because driving car into the local market and blowing it up doesn't sound like they have high regard for civilian life either.
Answer the question. Do you think the soldiers lifes are worth more than the mercenaries lifes ? I think they are worth the same, a life is a life, even if they are violent rent-a-killers. But I seem to remember that you are a monkey living in the stone age where, among other things, death penatly is a great thing. So for you some lives is more worth than others.
First thing that comes to my mind is, don't "fuck" with those guys. Second thing that comes to mind is, don't be hanging around when your buds start opening up with ak47s. Third thing that comes to mind is, why can't people like ablaye have the same standard for his buds killing innocent Iraqis every day? How peaceful it would be, if sexually frustrated men were not brainwashed into thinking they were going to get a bunch of nine year old sex slaves for killing their fellow muslims.
I might have misread it, but I believe it was al-Maliki, the IZ PM, and parliament that wanted them banned from operating in the country... Yes... They've been in the country for years now, why are they taking the stance against the group now? I know it's not fair to say, but when the bullets are flying there's always the chance of collateral damage... Now, if they killed innocents, that's different then if they indiscriminately slaughtered iraqi's... Whether or not I believe an over-paid, no-bid, civilian militia should or should not be allowed to operate in a theatre like that is kind of irrelevant... They have the ability to operate outside of all the army reg's, and in this type of guerrilla warfare, that's a nice asset to have... Just my two cents...