Gay couples adopting kids ... NO WAY

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Blogmaster, Sep 15, 2007.

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gay couples should adopt kids

  1. sure

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  2. heck no

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  3. not sure but it's weird

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  4. I have no opinion

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  1. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #261
    It could be a choice, I'm not sure, I'm not gay... I've read research that could go either way, so for a person to conclude that they are sure of one way or the other is either from personal experience, or just narrow minded...

    There's a difference between "cheerleading for gays to have children" and "promoting the ability for gays to adopt"... I'm not saying they'd (gays) all make great parents, but I know plenty that would make better parents then a lot of hetero people...


    Maybe 25 or 50 years ago... Heard of artificial-insemination? Lesbians are no different then straight women...

    Yeah, I think they understand that by being "open", they're accepting the inevitable harassment... I'm arguing that they should be allowed to adopt though, it's nothing "bad"... We need more people to adopt, why not let a caring homosexual provide for a child?

    Pick and choose when to be proud of being gay? What does having a child have to do with being proud of being gay? I must of missed something...
     
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  2. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    Agreed! A gay woman can still have children...

    I don't know why this thread turned into a "gay people can't naturally have kids, so they would obviously be horrible parents"... As a person that believes in equality, I have yet to see a post that makes me question a gay person's ability to be a good parent...
     
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  3. Tokio

    Tokio Peon

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    #263
    Eh? I never said it was wrong. I said that even if gays can't adopt, they could still somehow have their own child and raise it. So either way a child could end up being raised in a homosexual home, which is fine with me. I support gay adoption.

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    Ah, what about people who were in a straight marriage, had a child, but later divorced because one of the parents was gay. Should that gay parent lose the right to raise their child just because they're gay?

    Things like this have happened before...
     
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  4. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #264
    I wish there was a way to make the smiley face giggle, haha :)

    when most people hear "gay" they immediately think of two ugly men doing private things... I'm sure plenty of the anti-gays still have gay-woman-sex-videos on their computer, it's just the guys they don't like...
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #265
    Yet again, being gay = not being able to have children. It is not a 'health' reason that they are unable to have children, your entire artificial insemination angle holds no water as that is for 'health' reasons of a straight person ;)

    Proud to be gay, wow jesus how can you not understand? Proud to be gay, if you're proud to be gay it comes with everything including the bads, including not being able to have children. It's trully not that difficult to grasp..
     
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  6. Tokio

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    #266
    Psht, well of course! Lesbians are like..totally hotness.

    But two men? OMG No! That is just so sick and wrong! Ewwwww

    Yeah, most of the arguments against gays are about two men..everyone forgets about the lesbians.
     
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    #267
    It does happend, One of my best friends from highschool recently divorced her husband and is now in a lesbian relationship. Happens more often that people thing. People are now more secure in finding what they truly are wanting out of life.


    Tarponkeith! Damn right they do! the said bigots most likely have a stash of lesbian porn! Also most people don't believe there are any attractive lesbians. Sheese, Please we don't all war flannel and look like truck drivers :D
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #268
    Yet you forget that some including myself do not care one way or another, are for the most part for equal rights. Children however are not a right ;)
     
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  9. Tokio

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    #269
    It doesn't have to be for 'health' reason. Hell, you can get one of your friends to masturbate into a cup and use the sperm to impregnate yourself. And tada! You can have a kid!

    And yet again, being gay = still able to reproduce. Their body is not broken.

    And I'm not understanding everyone's logic.

    Being able to have kids = good parent
    Not being able to have kids = bad parent?

    Adoption isn't about having kids, it's about RAISING kids. You an raise kids without being able to have them.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #270
    :rolleyes:

    Being gay does = the very reason not being able to have kids..

    Yes they can try to get around the fact, it however is not the true definition of being gay or being 'proud' of it.

    Skip all you want, you have trully no argument so keep going off topic like you do. Shows you have no point, no argument, just more rambling.

    Their body is not broken, a gay man and a gay man CAN NOT have a kid, a gay woman and a gay woman CAN NOT have a kid w/o going to methods beyond nature. It trully is not difficult to grasp.
     
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    #271
    WHAT??? so getting around not being able to have child means we are not true gays or we are not proud??

    Sorry but anyway we decide to have kids doesnt effect our 'gay status' or how proud we are of being gay. they are two different things!

    If I follow your logic a straight couple who can't reproduce naturally and went and got around that fact using science makes them less straight and proud of it too??

    I'm lost!

    Single Straight Women = Can have kids and there is no problems??
    Single Gay Women = Can have kids but is a problem??
     
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  12. Tokio

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    #272
    I'm under the impression that being gay means you like romantic/sexual relations with other's of the same gender. It does not mean that you don't want a family.

    And being a 'proud' gay person doesn't mean you automatically don't want kids.
    Just like being a 'proud' straight person doesn't mean you automatically do want kids.

    Lets see...

    Straight person = Human
    Child = Human
    Gay person = Human

    ... omg, they're all human! So regardless of who adopts, it would still be a human raising another human. I see nothing wrong with that.
     
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    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #273
    Thank you! That's what this thread should be about... Instead of whether or not a person can biologically or physically produce a child, how about whether or not they would be a suitable parent figure...
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #274
    If I was a poo pusher this is what I would have to do. But I am NOT. I have kids (got them the natural way). If you think this poo pushing is disgusting why not stop it??? After all this is what being "gay" is all about. Let's help the "gay" population get rid of this thing you call "disgusting" let's not have them promote it to our young. We need to protect our young not the other way around.
     
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    poo pusher?

    A lot of heterosexual couples have anal sex and, once again, everyone is forgetting about the lesbians...(what do you call them?)
     
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    #276
    Your just sick!!! did you know that! the way you take about people is just gross!
     
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    #277
    Heterosexual couples who have anal sex don't go around the streets holding "anal sex pride marches". They don't ask for rights and do it behind closed doors. They don't shove this in public arena: "Hey everyone, wouldn't it be a great idea if we have a national heterosexual anal sex day celebration?"
     
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  18. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #278
    Ok, first of all:
    Relationships can be about more then sex...

    And like tokio said...
    1) what about lesbians, they don't "push much poo", haha
    2) how about male-female anal, would you get angered if a friend told you he did that to his wife, then had the audacity to want to adopt a child?
     
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    That's because they don't NEED to. They already have rights.

    But guess what? If they DIDN'T have rights, their asses would be on the streets marching too.
     
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    #280
    I saw a tv show on gay couple and thier daughter came out gay......
     
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