Gay couples adopting kids ... NO WAY

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Blogmaster, Sep 15, 2007.

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gay couples should adopt kids

  1. sure

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  2. heck no

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  3. not sure but it's weird

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  4. I have no opinion

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  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #101
    So just let them rot in an orphanage until they are ten? haven't really thought this through, Have ya. I guess you were too busy using that empty space between your ears to think of more ways you could disguise your hatred for blacks and gays while at the same time making appear as though you have a valid argument.

    We have you figured out, Don't worry about that.
     
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  2. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #102
    I think homosexual couples have the right to exactly the same things as heterosexual couples. They're still people for crying out loud. Just because they have different sexual orientations does not make them more or less capable of loving and raising a child.

    Hah, most people who are uptight with the "NO" and the bigotry usually have something to hide :p
     
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  3. ly2

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    #103

    Oh man, I absolutely LOVE when people suggjest you're gay if you're not in complete lockstep with the homosexual agenda. I really love it. Great job.

    So, by you're logic I'm: muslim, gay, and liberal
    It all makes sense now, thanks.
     
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  4. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #104
    How is it their 'right' when as being gay they can NOT have children naturally?

    I trully fail to see how it's a right, especially when being gay you kind of give up that so called 'right'
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    #105
    The point is a child needs a mother figure, the father 'who's wife died' gave his child that. Using a tragedy to justify deliberate tragedies is not right.

    At the end of the day it's about what's best for the child, not homosexual rights or anything else.
     
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    #106
    Sometimes it's not the case of someone being dead. Some people just divorce and the child lives with the father. In some cases, the mother might never see the child (be it court order or their personal choice).

    And child NEEDS someone who can care and provide for them. Doesn't matter what gender that person is, as long as they can fill the role.

    MANY children grow up without a father or without a mother. There are TONS of single parent homes. Gay couples can't do any worse.

    You want the child to sit in the orphanage and rot just because you're afraid to let them live with a gay couple?

    Most straight couples don't WANT to adopt, they want to have their own children (and some don't even want the children they do have). Gay couples could give those orphaned children a place to call home.

    They may not have a 'traditional' family but it's sure as hell better than living in an orphanage.
     
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    #107
    If the child is old enough to comprehend the situation, should the child not be able to choose?
     
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  8. BRUm

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    #108
    Ah, I see you're one of those religious nut-jobs. Following your logic, anything un-natural is wrong, right? OK, let's see, that would make just about all medicine and technology wrong too. In fact, anything other than reproducing, killing to eat and killing others for the sake of territorial grounds is wrong. Wow, you must be the world's biggest hypocrite, nice one.

    Without medical science, which does not occur naturally, you wouldn't live beyond the age of roughly 25, yet you most probably will. Does this mean you shouldn't?

    I love it when these idiots go on their "un-natural" crusades, when in actual fact, they have no scientific evidence or clue what they're talking about xD

    Most animal species engage in both homosexual and heterosexual activities. Take chimpanzees for example, 99.4% human, it's well documented how common a sight it is to see them engage in sexual acts with both genders. Now how is homosexuality, or polygamy "un-natural" or "wrong"?

    Ly2: I have no idea where you've got the idea of being Muslim or Liberal from. I wasn't being specific or aiming it at you... so why did you respond to it? :/
     
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  9. ly2

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    #109


    Because my reply shows how idiotic your "if you don't agree with homosexuals adopting kids, you must be gay" comment is.
     
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  10. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #110
    Your reply shows you need to learn how to read mate. Let's break it down..

    Right, see this word here: "usually", it's a general term that denotes the frequent success of an event or term becoming true. Now, where in that quote does it say "if you don't agree with homosexuals adopting kids, you must be gay"?

    Hm, you're very touchy on this subject son, maybe in this case the "usually" strikes true with you? ;)
     
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    #111
    They don't read Brum, They simply twist everything into something they feel adequately armed to counter. In ly2's case he has to twist it into a picture book written in thick crayon before it becomes something he is adequately armed to counter.
     
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  12. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #112
    Ok, if the woman dying offends you... lets say there's a straight couple, and after the mom gives birth, she turns into a coke-fiend and leaves her husband and kid... Now, should this dad not be able to raise his kid, because the woman left?

    And as for the "child needs a mother figure"; are you sure? I know plenty of people from single parent homes that grew up fine...
     
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  13. BRUm

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    #113
    That's just it Tarponkeith, they're blinded by bigotry or insane religious dogma and are without actual facts, evidence or having personal experience.
     
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    #114
    That would be a good reason to not have a mother, just like i meant before with regard to the woman dying (it didn't offend me at all), however deliberately placing a child with homosexuals is not a good reason to not have a mother figure. Basically every child has the right to be brought up in a normal environment, something which every child should have as it's natural, at least give the child a chance.

    Yes it provides a stable & well rounded environment, the child can learn different skills & stuff from each sex & studies have shown that children who grow up in a mother/father household as less likely to be involved in crime & the such.
     
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    #115
    I'll be straight will you (no pun intended:D), i'm against homosexuals/lesbians etc however at a push i can see that what they do behind closed doors is up to them, it's not like anyone can stop them, but a child should not be forced into an un-natural situation.
     
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  16. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #116
    I agree with that 100%. Keep it straight :D
     
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  17. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #117
    So there's a "good reason" to not have a mother around? So let me get this straight... 1 straight man would always be a better parent then 2 gay men?

    What's "normal"? Do you consider interracial relationships ok? Why is love not enough?


    Really? I'd like to see those stats... I've known plenty of people (including myself) that were raised in single-parent homes, and didn't grow to commit crimes or be horrible people...
     
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    #118
    I would say so yes, as a mother figure can always be replaced by a straight guy.


    Normal is exactly what it means, normally every child everywhere have always be raised by a mother/father & only by one by a death or other another serious matter.



    I'll find them for you, however that was never my argument that having only one parent causes problems, in the study it's just proves there are more problems among these children.
     
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    #119
    A. I'm not your son nor your mate.
    B. No, unfortunately for you, I'm not a homosexual.
    C. Sticking "usually" in your sentence has no effect on the idiocy of your little assumption.
     
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    #120


    You really need to see stats for that?
     
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