It's official Google has opened up a can of whoop ass on directories

According to him, success means a person who has 4 directory links in his signature

 

LOL..... i cant afford not to laugh on this .... i too hav some dir's infact all... in my siggy.... need to do something else on net other than dir..... as to be frank i agree that i came to this webmastering field as a directory owner... & before i could make some buck i m thrownnn ....

 

Yes, it looks like. But I can't be sure of that.
You repeated your opinion many times. I even agree to many things you said.
But I only can't understand you do that dozens times again and again.
This is what I do not like no matter of the subject.

So what?
Directories is only very small part of what I'm doing.
And I even can't run more of it as I'm too busy with other things.

 

Ohhhh crap. I explained you on the yahoo messenger. If you look for making quick bucks with web directories then you wont last long. If you want long term profits and probably a fortune then start working on something useful and leave this crappy business made on smokes and mirrors. Make some useful and meaningful.

See how much new ideas people come up with and make it big. See the http://www.techcrunch20.com . How small business people like me and you come up with innovative ideas and get funded in millions by corporates. I wonder they would even have a look at web directories.

 

But the reality is that, dozens of times or not, what I'm saying is factual and apparently people like you still don't get it.

On the other question, successful at what? How do you know what my goals are? And how are you even in a position to judge whether I have been successful in reaching those goals?

You might want to run a spell-checker on that sucker.

You're careful, I'll give you that, but you're still selling PR. That might explain your resistance to reality.

 

You've answered your own question here & I'll put a different spin on this to illustrate.

Page, radio & TV advertising; I've worked in all these media, client side & agency side. The reality is that if you want a top position/slot you pay top dollar for it. And I have never met an ad sales exec yet that has turned down a booking because they didn't like the product/service being advertised.

A web directory, whether bidding or regular, is just another advertising medium with the added advantage that a directory gives the advertiser a measure of longevity, something they don't get from transient media. How much exposure they get on the directory is totally down to how much the advertiser wants to spend.

 

Yeah, can have many spell errors as I'm not English native.

Better look at your own websites, masterpieces of bad coding, tons of simple html errors, even though really not complicated design.
You can always think of hiring me.
I can clear it in professional way!

 

deebee ... i think you are missing what minstrel is trying to say. Additionally online directories are very different than traditional methods of advertising. In the traditional methods you are targeting a specific audience with a specific message with the end result typically being sales conversions at a bricks and mortar business. Directories if structured and implemented properly can provide for the similar results .. unfortunately most often than not links on directories are sold for gaming Google and getting better SERPs and PR.

 

No. Your analogy is invalid.

Ordinary people read magazines and newspapers and watch television. It makes sense to advertise where you will reach ordinary people. Ordinary people don't frequent these directories.

That's not advertising. That's link selling. And whether you agree with me or not, it appears that Google does.

 

Bidding directories can be called advertising if your target is only on the directory owners. And such a case will only when you are another directory owner trying to advertise your newly born juice business

 

Very glad to see the that some eyes are being opened to reality.
Tora: Tora: Tora: See the Rising Sun.

Some cycles ago doing this would lead one to be jumped on by "The Group" (re-phrased properly) and be accused of all sorts of traitorship with a punishment of being sent to the desert to "DRY OUT".

 

Yup. Its hurting mine and I bet a whole lot of other people. That is all except anOn who is now spending a little more time reviewing all the submissions he gets swamped with. It makes me want to throw up and thats why I waste my time repeating the same thing over and over again.

Most of the directory owners that got targeted by Google spent an awful lot of time on this forum spining their web of deceit and bending our industry out of shape and I personally don't want them to forget. I personally don't want them to think that they can come crawling out of their holes when the dust has settled and pick up where they left off. Its time to put all of that garage behind us and to move on.

 

Though I like to see people suffer more I would consider if they apologize PUBLICLY.

 

On the surface you would agree with your comments, and although true, I also see a whole new generation that live in ciberspace not on the TV or in the glossy mag and as such a directory is one form of sustained advertising and will be a growing market for the future.

The internet is the completion of a well put together ad campaign / promotion involving Tv Radio newspaper and now the Web making the Directory a good place to impliment this part of your stategy.

You will see more and more intergration of all media types and i suppose what i call webverts as a normal every day thing.

A normal campaign will cover the top 3 Tv Radio and Newspaper now it will cover the Web, those clued in will pick up on this early trend and maximise its potential.

Just my 2c

 

Starting with a low budget campaign.

This past summer I have extended some campaigns on the local level and sponsored some church activities that include car wash by high school students and let them use some of our equipments from our offline business and this turned out some good traffic as the activity was seen by REGULAR NORMAL WEB SURFERS and not web masters. It includes some high school students with blogs blogging the site. The church activity representatives had made some people aware of it and even had some families visit the site and give compliments on its listings and had suggested with a point of view what websites to add. As for college / universities my plans are to go to some in nearby areas and give some printed shirts with Dirsensei to some groups and get included for a review in school blogs.

Also as a member of a local Chamber of Commerce I had co-sponsored a breakfast meeting with local businesses and had a chance to speak about it. It gave again some nice NORMAL TRAFFIC. Also had some local businesses asking how could their websites get some boost in Traffic and bringing them to a competing level with a few asking for designs. So it turned out business after all from our web design team, SEO's and clicks with some contacting me about having their sites listed. Again Regular People Not Webmasters.

Local newspaper editorials that had a couple of editors that will give a newspaper editorial review.

Everything should start somewhere with good prospects and reach the Average People who uses the net. As it grows take it to next level.

Just also my 2 cents.

 

Makes a lot of sense. Much the same thing we are doing. I have set up the local Chamber of Commerce and am encouraging local businesses to use blogs and directories to complement the advertisng they do in the local media.

 

I don't think they are missing any of the points minstrel is saying, I think they know he's making sense but are in denial mode.

 

Simply don't want to accept the truth

 

I've seen you and a few other people talking like this and what I am trying to figure out is what kind of deceit where these guys using and how did they bend the industry out of shape. None of you were saying that when these guys was spending 100's of dollars to buy sitewides, featured listings and banner spaces on your directories, or even on the brand new directories that most of you created but never did anything with.

None of you were saying that when these guys was coming up with new ways to make the market better, the same new ways which most of you who are talking used and are still using on your directories. Are you guys not benifiting from the ideas that they created? So how can you sit there and say these guys messed up the market. What was the market doing before these guys came along? Nothing, it was a dead market with only a handful of directories.

So these guys not nailed for buying links, so what. So because of that all of a sudden these guys are scam artist? I see it more as a marketing blunder and one which should have never happend. At the same time I give these guys credit for at least trying, to bad I can't say the same for everyone as I see alot of so-called good directories doing nothing.

I think that most of you also know that the penatly which these guy may have is an easy one to get out of so you know they will be back soon. And I am pretty sure that when they do, those of you who are sitting here talking mess will be right back to singing and praising their names like you were before.

I gotta go what the watch the seahawks game but take what I said as food for thought if nothing else.

 

Are we talking about the same thing? PR pimps? Authority sites? Pyramid schemes? Just written off as aggressive marketing is it? What about everyone who in good faith bought the PR that never happened? I am not one of them but I work hard and dont appreciate two bit hustlers stuffing up my business for me.