Iranian Jews refuse to immigrate to Israel despite cash incentives

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ablaye, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. #1
    Here is an interesting article which rebutes the claim that the Iranian President Ahmedinejad is planning a new holocaust and is the new Hitler, as the liar Netanyahu (former prime minister of Israel), zionists and their supporters are trying to convince us (hoping for the US to attack Iran).
    There are iranian jews living in Iran, who love Iran and who would NOT migrate to Israel despite bride offers ($10,000/person) from the apartheid state of Israel.

    Source: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/881714.html
     
    ablaye, Sep 14, 2007 IP
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    soniqhost.com Notable Member

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    It’s very hard to leave ones home and move to a different country with a different culture.
     
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    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    It's the same thing that happened in Germany. Many Jews had the chance and time to escape before it was too late, but they did not. They thought well of Germany, and they liked it there. And we all know what happened afterwards.

    There are a lot of Iranian Jews living in Israel, i personally know a lot myself.
    They tell some crazy ass shit stories about Iran. And i tend to believe them.

    Try harder.
     
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    hamidof Peon

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    Germany then was a military super power, it had great economy and it was technologically advanced, BUT Iran has an economy dependent on oil; technology and military equipment which are 50 years old, so I find:

    Ridiciulous!
     
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    In 2004, more than 20,000 Soviet Jews arrived in Germany in contrast to only 11, 000 to Israel
     
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    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews

    "Under Nadir Shah (1736–1747), Jews experienced a period of relative tolerance when they were allowed to settle in the Shi'ite holy city of Mashhad. Yet, the advent of a Shi'a Qajar dynasty in 1794 brought back the earlier persecutions. In the middle of the 19th century, J. J. Benjamin wrote about the life of Persian Jews: "…they are obliged to live in a separate part of town…; for they are considered as unclean creatures… Under the pretext of their being unclean, they are treated with the greatest severity and should they enter a street, inhabited by Mussulmans, they are pelted by the boys and mobs with stones and dirt… For the same reason, they are prohibited to go out when it rains; for it is said the rain would wash dirt off them, which would sully the feet of the Mussulmans… If a Jew is recognized as such in the streets, he is subjected to the greatest insults. The passers-by spit in his face, and sometimes beat him… unmercifully… If a Jew enters a shop for anything, he is forbidden to inspect the goods… Should his hand incautiously touch the goods, he must take them at any price the seller chooses to ask for them... Sometimes the Persians intrude into the dwellings of the Jews and take possession of whatever please them. Should the owner make the least opposition in defense of his property, he incurs the danger of atoning for it with his life... If... a Jew shows himself in the street during the three days of the Katel (Muharram)…, he is sure to be murdered."[13]


    I don't know why these people must stick around there.

    Don't we see a message here? Israel is calling these Jews not because they are going to face a holocaust but because they are afraid the Jews might get caught in the fray during the invasion which is soon to happen.

    So do we see an invasion in the offing?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    You are aware that it is 2007, aren't you? :rolleyes:
     
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    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_United_States

    :)
     
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    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised to see that Afro-Americans join the anti-semitic bandwagon. As long as people like Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X are there, they'll remain inspirations for anti-semiticism and the rise of Islam.

    If I spit at a Jew in Iran no law will punish me but if I did that in the US, I can get sued or punished. See the difference? Besides, USA is a young country - a melting pot. Who knows, I might get mugged or kicked if I were to walk into a Harlem unprotected. These things are bound to happen but the criminals don't go unpunished unlike Muslim countries where the criminal, if he were a Muslim, who committed crime against a non-Muslim, goes scot-free.
     
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    I see some people never run out of BS and excuses to post, no matter what the facts are. :rolleyes:
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    Israel is offering to Iranian Jews $10,000/person to migrate to Israel and they refused to take the offer.
    If the Iranian Jews were persecuted as you claim, don't you think that they would not even wait to be offered money to migrate to Israel.
    Yet with even an offer of $10,000/person to migrate, they are still refusing.
    What a liar you are.
     
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    As i said, maybe it is quite hard for you to understand, take the same case in Germany before the Holocaust. People refused to leave "their" country. People refused to make a change, refused to start a new life somewhere else.
    And we both know what happened afterwards, don't we ?
     
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    In reality a lot of them tried to leave but because of anti-Semitics in USA and the rest of Europe they could not get visa to enter those countries.
     
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    It doesn't serve the radical Christian or Judaic right wings to discuss the fact that the Arab world has long been home to 3 different religions all stemming from the same tradition, and while religious equity may not have always been perfect, it has been a state of co-existence for hundreds of years.

    I think it is pretty hypocritical, particularly since blatant racism still exists in the West, for anyone to point at the middle east and make a case for inequality.
     
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    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you goto the middle east and try doing it all by yourself.
     
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    Judaism has been the main target by its off-shoots namely Christianity and Islam both being decadent religions.

    When we say persecution, immediately it's Jews that come to our mind because no other religion is persecuted as they are.
     
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    Let me take a wild guess, you are one of those Hindus that considers the Muslims their eternal enemy and the enemy of your enemy is your friend. :rolleyes:
     
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    I think all religions consider muslims to be their enemy.
    Many non-religious people also consider islam to be their enemy, including me.
     
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    guerilla, Sep 15, 2007 IP