Do Outbound links reduce your page weigth ?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Camay123, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. #1
    Example:

    A page with everything the same except that one page as 5 outgoing links and the other page as 15 outgoing links, or even only 10, will the page with 5 outgoing links weight more to search engines then the other one with 10 or 15 Outgoing links ?

    When linking to other site, do we waster our own potential ?
     
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    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    Yep. The more outgoing links you have the lower rankings you'll get. The problem is that you're passing them your link-juice and therefore loosing it instead of keeping if for your own raking good.

    I'm a Link-Juice Jew :D

    Cheers,

    Venetsian.
     
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  3. indyguidedotinfo

    indyguidedotinfo Notable Member

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    thanks. Im gonna start cleaning pr n/a sites from my directores
     
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  4. Camay123

    Camay123 Well-Known Member

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    Im asking because it's been 1 month that I have removed some outbound links on my site, and my SERP have drastically increase in Yahoo and I got more first page keywords then before since about two weeks.
     
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    COBSolutions Well-Known Member

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    My theory goes like this
    You have only one apple in a page to share.....
    the number of outbound links that you have....that many number of pieces you have to make that apple into....
    so who loses it,,,you in any case loses the apple....but the outbound link gets smaller pieces depending on the number of links you have....
    as far as i am concerned it hardly matters how many links you have....you dont lose anything but the link does stand to gain less with the more number of outbound links you have in that page:cool:
     
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    Try to keep your outbound links under 20 anyway...
     
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    boron Well-Known Member

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    Hm, I was convinced that many outgoing links can only harm those links themselves - they will provide less PR juice to sites where they point.

    But I had never heard that many links on the site (page) can harm your SERPs. Only, maybe if they point to some "bad" sites.
     
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  8. Camay123

    Camay123 Well-Known Member

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    So you are saying you dont loose weigth/importance to SE ?
     
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    usasportstraining Notable Member

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    No, your outbound links don't hurt you, they just don't help those receiving them as much. It's a vote, and your vote from that page has less value as it gets spread across multiple links.
     
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    faithxp Banned

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    other said that more outbound link in your site, the lower PR passing you will get... But for me as long you will get relevant links, there is no problem with it...
     
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    Your outbound links will have little, if any, effect on you, but it will lessen the "vote" to the receiving sites, the more outbound links you have on that page.

    Pages with 20+ (give or take) outbound links will pass very little "juice" to the other sites. If you are receiving a backlink from another website's page that has tons of links, you're probably getting very little benefit, especially if the content is unrelated to you.
     
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    Phlegm Jar Peon

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    Sorry, I couldn't disagree more. You're suggesting that every outbound link saps away a little bit of PR from your own site, and that PR has a direct relationship to ranking?

    What a boring web it would be if either of those scenarios were true.
     
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    Not to "hijack" this thread or anything, but why don't people just use "nofollow" on all outbound links? Wouldn't this save your PageRank? I always wondered that ...
     
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    so, can we solve this problem by "nofollowing" all outbound links?

    should we nofollow our links even if they are to "authority" sites?
     
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    Camay123 Well-Known Member

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    I dont think linking to an authority sites give you importance to SE. If it was the case all site's would link to authoritive site to gain importance.
     
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    nofollow ONLY affects the receiving page in terms of NOT passing PR juice along.

    Your PR does NOT leave or become lessened by having outbound links, nofollow or otherwise.
     
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    There is a theory that linking TO pages on other sites with related content will have a benefit to you. Being of related content and being considered 'of value' to the visitor is what is important.
     
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    Camay123,

    Yeah, I know that it doesn't benefit me any, but I guess I'll expand on my question. I can't remember where I read this, and I will give you the resource when I find it, but the article was about authority sites, hubs, and the structure behind links. Basically in a nutshell, it describes that certain industries create their own network of links that work to strengthen that industry as a whole...sort of like a spider web. Now, the sites that are being linked to repeatedly, are considered to be authority sites or hubs. So let's say that my website has an outbound link to Cisco.com (our industry). It's obvious that there are thousands and thousands of sites that link out to Cisco as well, so Google recognizes them as an authority. Now, let's say that everyone that linked out to Cisco or another relevant site decided to nofollow all of their outbound links. That would essentially weaken the entire "spider web" because we would all start looking more like virtual "islands" as opposed to a network.

    It sounds logical, but I just wanted to see if there was anyone in this forum who could elaborate or debunk.
     
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    Well said. :)

    The mini-networks of related content is the key. If the links benefit the visitor by pointing them to a site with valuable content related to their search and general patterns, then Google will see it as a good thing.

    A likely pattern of a internet user is to do a search or go to a known site, then read some pages, notice a link, click on the link which may take them to another site, see more related content that may expand on something from the other site, and continue on with this same pattern.

    Google is trying to put a measurement on the sites and pages that a user would visit with the above thinking. In a nutshell, that is what their algorithms and teams of researchers are trying to mimic and measure. If you think along those terms you will be fine. As an example, the visitor would probably not be impressed if they were on a site about quantum physics and clicked on a link taking them to a casino. This is what Google is trying to prevent.
     
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    Again, I beg to differ. Linking out to authorative sites should be a natural thing for a website that is interested in providing value to it's visitors. Any search engine interested in providing relevant results would be foolish to ignore or penalise such activity.

    Awaken, judging by your signature link one of your colleagues approached me yesterday (coincidentally) to buy a site-wide text link. Should I follow your reasoning, take the money and 'no-follow' the link?

    I would like to think that the site in question is proof enough that linking out has no detrimental effects.
     
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