Gay Marriage: Should It Be Allowed?

After looking at the miserable result of the first time that you are born, I wonder how bad it will be the second time around.

Have you ever considered that just because you believe in this BS, it doesn't mean that it is actually true and the other people should also believe it?

 

If what I believe in is not true not much of a problem. I would have lived a life where I enjoyed my wife's company only, I would have kids and not deceive others. And then I die and that's it.
If on the other hand Christianity is right, you stand to lose A LOT MORE than me. You will have to spend a whole eternity in a place where there is no love, no water and just an ever present fire. So say no one can prove it, who of us two would be the biggest loser in the end?

 

You will be the loser when we are alive and nobody wins or lose after death because there is nothing.

 

Even if you are right, from a physical point of view I live a better life with a much cleaner anus. You know, your anus wasn't designed so you can stick things inside of it. It's made so things get out through it not enter it. This thing alone should make you stay well clear of sodomite activity. Brrr....

 

How do you know these things, are you speaking from personal experiance?

 

Yes. I go to toilet every day. And the butt/anus was designed for exporting activity not importing. And I intend to keep it this way. Like this woman said: "If someone comes knocking on my back door I ain't going to answer. Nope. Must use the front door." I am not a woman but I like her logic.

 

But if you haven't tried the import, you can not be sure that it won't work as well as export. May be you should try it and then you can really become the import/ export expert. With all your protests, it makes me believe that you really like to become an importer in your subconscious.

 

Tolerance and fairness in our society will affect and improve peoples lives here and now. Christianity is mere speculation and even if there is a God I doubt he approves of all that was written in the Bible. The Bible was written a long time ago to help give people of the time guidelines about how to live their life + the threats and promises within gave people a good reason to follow them.

The world has changed a lot since + although there are still great lessons to learn from the bible it's insanity to still live our lives strictly by it's guidelines.

I'm actually indifferent to whether gay marriage is legal or not but I can understand why religion is being brought into it since marriage is traditionally a religious event. They're not necesarily religious any more though so why can't a same sex couple enjoy the same legal rights as a heterosexual one?

Also, I don't think the bedroom habits between 2 consenting adults should affect how they are seen by the law. You can judge them all you like but the law should be fair and unbiased.

Proteindude - If you want us to tolerate you as a Christian then you should learn to tolerate other people who are different. It's good to be different + let's not persecute people for it.

That's my final post on the subject.

 

Some people are more born gays than christians...I believe you are genetically heterosexual or homosexual but never christians or jews.

 

Your logic is flawed and your belief is stupid.
You say:
-If nothing of this crap is true, oh well, i lived my life as a happy slave and then i die.
-If it IS true, then all of you non believers will burn in hell for eternity and i'll be in heaven.

So looking at these 2 options, you think for yourself "Hmm.. I got nothing to lose. it is logical that i choose to be a slave and believe", and so you do.
You are just another sheep, that lets the bible do your thinking.

 

Does not matter because the catholics changed and edited the bible. You know that and I know that. And even today the bible is edited ever so slightly in new editions. If we at all should believe in the bible that would be a bible that had only one edition and that edition had to be from around year 50 or so. Such a bible does not exist.

 

The Bible will still be around long after all the sodomites posting on this thread will be gone. It has been around for many many centuries and will continue to be the #1 best seller of all time. Sure it had to be edited: "gay" a long time ago meant something totally different to use one example.

AIDS – originally named GRID (gay-related immunodeficiency disease) until activist homosexuals pressured the medical establishment to switch to the generic acronym AIDS (acquired immune deficiency syndrome) – was the ultimate public relations nightmare. It gave society a brand-new reason to fear and shun homosexuals – namely, concern over becoming infected with a nightmarish new disease. This is another example of name changing.

You know, ALL the Bible editions I have seen and you must have them translated in different languages still say homosexuality, lying, stealing, decieving, murder is a sin. This regardless of what century you live in.

Ogkaz: I am not asking you to tolerate me. Without two heterosexuals having sex (proper sex) there would not be any homosexuals around. You are dependant on us not the other way around.

And regarding the Bible being old fashioned guess what: you came into this world in an old fashioned way and you will leave this world in an old fashioned way.

 

Proteindude, you have no idea what was written in the original bible. That secrets are hidden in the vatican.

 

What secrets man? Get real. Repent or perish. That is not hidden by the Vatican.

 

On subject of the thread: I think yes, it's up to persons to decide who to marry.

 

I won't deal with your biblical premises, as this is the subject for another thread.

You refuse to deal with the fact that AIDS began in Africa, where as HIV it apparently was transferred from a chimpanzee to a hunter sometime in the late 1950's. From there, the disease spread through contact with the infected blood of this subspecies of chimp, and passed along through heterosexual tranmission, almost entirely, where such a transmission largely remains today - the tragedy continues in Africa, with more women than men carrying HIV, roughly 3 to 1.

It is not a "gay" disease. It is a medical problem. Simply repeating the lie will not make the facts go away, and what you are lying about is a global tragedy.

Your scripture has told you to leave judgment up to God, to selflessly love your fellow beings, and to be a good steward of the Earth. I'd suggest you give it a try.

 

Ok, so I am wrong and you are right. I am lying and you are telling the truth. Let's see why should someone believe you over me? You can blame it on monkeys, you can say it was called AIDS from the begining which it wasn't. AIDS – originally named GRID (gay-related immunodeficiency disease) until activist homosexuals pressured the medical establishment to switch to the generic acronym AIDS (acquired immune deficiency syndrome) – was the ultimate public relations nightmare. It gave society a brand-new reason to fear and shun homosexuals – namely, concern over becoming infected with a nightmarish new disease.

I don't need no doctor to tell me sticking things inside my anus is destroying my body. Especially when having gay sex. You are inserting faeces and toxins into each others bodies.

You seem to know what the Bible says. The things you mentioned are very, very true. However, you have to take the rest in as well. You know the part that says : No homosexual will enter Heaven. It doesn't tell me to be a good stewart of the earth. It tells me the earth will be destroyed by fire and that God will make a NEW Heaven and a NEW Earth. So let's read the WHOLE Bible not parts of it. I think this is a fair point.

 

OK, I see it is pointless. You have merely repeated your lie, and refuse to deal with the known etiology of the disease. As I said,

You also apparently have a memory problem:

Hence, it is clear you will draw whatever scraps you need to make your own personal, and I would say, flawed, theology.

I'd suggest you return to your book, and include the parts in your thought that indicate it's absolutely not your job to condemn, but to live your life as an example; love others with the love given you; and watch over the earth given to you by your Creator.

 

You ask what secrets. If I knew that it would not be a secret, right? You have no idea what he vatican have changed, but still you say you live after that book. Its just very strange to do that, you put your life in the hands of the early vatican story tellers.

 

Having sex with animals is not harming anyone either

It shouldn't be allowed and laws should be made to enforce the nature of the universe.

Cheers,
Hossam