Why ISlam And Muslims only?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Shaun123, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. bfebrian

    bfebrian Peon

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    #41
    this is a trick question?
    let see... the lowest labor salary in indonesia is around Rp 1000,000/month that equal to US$ 100.

    that answer your question?

    not only muslim who want to immigrate to west, is nothing to do with religion.
     
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  2. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #42
    But I thought the muslim lands are rich lands. They are especially rich in oil. Of course you can't drink oil or eat oil and the only way you can make money of oil is if you sell it to the rich western nations.

    But then again, why don't the rich muslim nations help the poor muslim brothers in Indonesia so their salary isn't that low? I don't know but I think these are valid questions, especially from the followers of the world's greatest and most peaceful religion. I thought Indonesia receives a lot of aid from Australia (not exactly a muslim nation)
     
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  3. bfebrian

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    #43
    the way that US help Israel with their billions of funds? and Israel doesn't really need that help. ;)
     
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  4. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #44
    The way US helps Israel is a good example. Why can't Saudi Arabia do the same for Indonesia? They are peace loving, muslim nations after all. And let's face it the Saudy family is not exactly poor. Why is it the biggest donor of foreign aid to Indonesia remains Australia, a country with only 10% the population of Indonesia. And what do the Aussies get in return: Bali bombings (TWICE), their embassy bombed in Jakarta... Very grateful people these peace loving muslims. And Indonesia is generaly referred to as a "moderate" muslim nation. I don't know, despite all this you are still willing to defend Islam. Seems a little irrational to me. But then again, it's just me.
     
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  5. bfebrian

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    #45
    can you give me proof that australia is the biggest donor to indonesia? you always say that australia is the biggest donor to indonesia.
    helping indonesia is not that simple, about more that 200 milions people live in it.
    what we need is a clean goverment, and we learning democracy - that's all.
    we have all the resources, and we are not that dumb.
    There many good people died when we want real democracy, and we want to continue it.
    we trying to make this country great, not run away from it.
    Is easy o run away from problem, rather than deal with it.
     
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  6. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #46
    Ok, so Australia isn't the biggest donor to Indonesia. You muslim dudes don't accept any proof. After that horrible tsunamy Australia pledged $1 billion Australian dollars to help with reconstruction. How much did Saudi Arabia pledge? How many volunteers from Saudi Arabia came to help? Last I saw it was guys from the Australian army that came to help the victims and bring aid.
    Dude, open your eyes and see how Australia is repaid for its generosity. Two Bali bombings, bombing of Australian embassy and the leader of Jemaa Islamyah the terrorist orrganisation responsible for Bali bombings gets reduced sentences time after time. Peaceful people Indonesia has. By the way I have been to Bandung, Jakarta and Bali and the country is beautiful. The religion of Islam isn't.
     
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    #47
    Thank you.
    That's why i won't move an inch.
     
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  8. hemux

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    #48
    The world is targeting muslims because they have more oil. why wudnt the Us leave iraq alone? theyve killed 1000s in afghanistan which include alot of innocent people, is this act justified? If they were searching for Bin Laden then they should do that, bombing the entire afghanistan and causing death to innocent people is not Justified!
     
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    #49
    If someone did any crime and they found out that he's a muslim they don't say that person did they say islam did ..
    alots of crimes happen in america christians, jaws and muslims and other religions . if non muslim did it like christian they don't say that because of christianity,but if muslim did it they would say that because of islam and islam teach them to be criminals and to kill non muslims.
     
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    #50
    Can any one tell me why??
     
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  11. Miss Pepper

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    #51
    Because non-muslims don't commit their crimes in the name of their religion. Muslims frequently don't either, I know, there are people who are just bad, and coincidentally happen to be muslims. But that is not true of Bin Laden and his cohorts. They are very good and devout muslims, and psychopathic criminals simultaneously. The fact that Islam can allow an individual to be both those things at the same time, is the reason that Islam gets the blame.
     
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    #52
    As if we are just looking for a guy:rolleyes:

    There are taliban fighters & terrorists who are willing to fight the troops, they have to be dealt with, innocents do get hurt, it's war.
     
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  13. proteindude

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    #53
    I wish the world would be targeting muslims, but it's not. Let's be totally honest: no muslims no 9/11. No muslims no Bali Bombings. No muslims: no chopping off the heads of infidels. No muslims: women can have rights, can drive cars, can compete in sports, can go to school. No muslims: no need to spend so much on security. No muslims: less queues in airports.

    No muslims/Islam, simply put, this world would be a MUCH better place. You can say I am a dreamer, but I am not the only one. I hope some day this will come true.
     
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    #54
    Blunt, but true.
     
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  15. Valley

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    #55
    Erm
    Who's side are you on?
    Have you thought of being the New Mcann Family spokesperson?
     
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    #56
    Because muslims kill in the name of their religion. Can you understand that?
     
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    #57
    WHAT??? I thought Jihad meant to look after your garden and make sure you water the plants. I better go back to the Quran and find out what Mohamed really meant by Jihad. I don't know who to believe anymore.
     
    proteindude, Sep 18, 2007 IP