So it is about the oil afterall

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by iul, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. #1
    C-Span’s Washington Journal yesterday, Rep. Christopher Shays has a rare Republican moment of non-talking point candor. When asked by a caller why we are still in Iraq, Shays admits it’s because we just can’t let any other country control that oil.

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/12/rep-chris-shays-were-there-for-the-oil/


    bad news for the sheeple who still believe it was about terrorism, wmds or freedom for the iraqis
     
    iul, Sep 13, 2007 IP
  2. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    Of course it was about freedom for the Iraqis! They are now free to bleed wherever they like.
     
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    I think eveyone with half a brain has by now managed to see past the humanitarian and terrorism excuses for the war that were given at the start.
     
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    Give it a couple hours, the Nixon Gang will be in here to denounce this guy as a Ron Paul supporter, a terrorist apologist and an America hater.

    The best way to cover up the truth is with rhetoric. Welcome to 1984.
     
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    Any second now..... 5.4.3.2........ ;)
     
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    I think he is right...we can't let another country control the oil...That is specifically the job for the iraqi's, which they are doing well...oh wait, ya'll thought the US was controlling the oil, didn't you? Shame on me for not being a part of the doom and gloom crowd.
     
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    "So where is the oil going to come from? ... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies,"
    —Dick Cheney, 1999, while still CEO of the oil services company, Halliburton.
     
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    gee...since then we have found out that ANWR probably has more oil than any of those fields...as well as the Gulf of Mexico producing more than expected...if the libs and enviro weenies would only let us go get it...
     
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  9. Arnie

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    #9
    I'm looking forward to join activities to get the OPEC into the right track though.;)
    Yes, terrorists want to control via a caliphate and terror the whole world the way as their prophet started it up, including the oil in Iraq. So, what's wrong?
     
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  10. iul

    iul Well-Known Member

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    thw wrong thing in my eyes is that the US simply attacked another country to get their resources
     
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    Oil was not the main reason to go into Iraq, but has some impact now due to the developement in that region.
     
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    #12
    So what was the main reason? Bin Laden? Or America turned on the (Hero Mode) on !? :D
     
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    A mixture of all together. The main reason was terrorism, I believe, though.
     
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    Bush himself said Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or al-qaeda
     
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    Which terrorists came from Iraq?

    It was, and still is the case that the vast majority of terrorists are linked with our "allies" Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. If the Iraq invasion was to prevent terrorism then they got the wrong country.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Where's the oil, again?

    I've asked, even offered money via paypal, for anyone to show any US company taking oil from Iraq. No one's ever claimed the money.

    $50 via paypal. Someone list a US company that is taking Iraqi oil.

    /waits for the sounds of crickets from the anti-American crowd.
     
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    "The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued—they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued. They looked at them and catalogued."


    - Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), Chairman Committee on Foreign Relations, April 29, 2007, referring to Iraqi WMDs on Meet The Press.

    Via MSNBC.
     
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    International Herald Tribune reports:

    Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani said Tuesday that crude oil began to flow from his country's northern oil-rich Kirkuk to a Turkish export terminal last week — for the first time since Saddam Hussein was toppled in 2003...

    Two weeks ago, Iraq agreed with Syria to repair and subsequently reopen another key pipeline, a 880-kilometer (550 mile) long link connecting Kirkuk and the Syrian port of Baniyas...

    Al-Shahristani told Dow Jones that Iraq's current production capacity from its northern oil fields stands at 700,000 barrels a day, of which around 300,000 barrels a day are destined for a refinery in the nearby northern industrial city of Beiji for domestic use.


    So it's about the oil, yet the oil it's apparently been about these past years only started flowing a few weeks ago, 3/7 of which is being used for domestic use. The rest is going to locations across the globe, not just the US. Yeah, I can see how it was all about oil.
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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  20. iul

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    #20
    The oil doesn't necessarily be taken from Iraq by american oil companys for the US to benefit from the control of the iraqi oil. The US get the money the companys (wether american or not) pay for that oil

    According to the Energy Administration Administration Iraq is the sixth largest exporter of oil towards the US so your claims that the US doesn't get oil from Iraq are nonsense
     
    iul, Sep 13, 2007 IP