Muslims threaten to cut off Britney Spears and Madonnas head

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  1. AliQureshi

    AliQureshi Well-Known Member

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    #41
    wow, I'm a Muslim you can't force anyone to become Muslim its a SIN!, a person who becomes Muslim has to do it on there own will.. thats why when you convert the first question they ask you is do you want to do this?.. and they also ask if your doing it on your own will.. YOU CANNOT FORCE anyone, this is bullshit, those terrorists aren't Muslims at all, especially if they've had so much trouble following religion. What they did in 9/11 was also a sin, people always associate this with Jihad, but its not, what they did wasn't justified, I hate it when people put this out, I don't know if its true, but if it is I'm telling you as a Muslim I know that you can't do the things these terrorists do.
     
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    #42
    That's because in Saudi Arabia, the cut parts of your body if you do something wrong. Or kill ya, if you're not lucky enough.
     
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    #43
    No Mr. proteindude you actually you don't want to admit what is the fact. And If USA have more population than Saudia,it also have more resources. It is also calling itself as "Single super power" then why they are not able to decrease crime rate in their country. Super power should have enough power so it can stop what is going in its own country. Why it is trying to be the king of the world if it can’t stop things like that in its own country?
     
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    #44
    If USA is so powerful why it does not go for straight war with Russia or China, they both oppose US in every turn even in United Nations, of course the Air-striking force has learned that they are nothing on the ground from Vietnam where naked, poor people made them suffer for over twenty years, Soviet Union collapsed because of Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev the former USSR President, not because of USA, taking credit is stupid,
    Nowadays Russia is in the news because the Russian President is a fearless man and all the Americans can do is talk to them, USA loves to strike Afghanistan or Iraq because they were already stricken by hunger poverty and tyrant leaders, also promoted by USA
     
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    #45
    So you think we should leave the criminal alone?What a thinking.
     
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    #46
    By the way the richest country on this earth is Saudi Arabia not US, and talking about the prosperity and economy of US, which based on oil is taken from middle-east for almost free.
     
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    #47
    I think "treating women like pearls and diamonds" doesn't have to do anything with any religion. Despite whatever religion follower you are, your behaviour changes according to your situations.
     
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    #48
    I had not used word "richest”. I had used word the country having more resources. And everyone can think for whom this word can use.
     
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    #49
    Well I agree with you on that pal!
     
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    #50
    Ali, 9/11 isn't the only thing. the ottoman empire have you ever heard of it? Darfur? Iran-Iraq? You still don't get it man, the god of Islam is the god of war. It is not the one true God in whose image you are made. Don't kid yourself. Where do all the terrorists get their inspiration from? Do they get inspired from the Bible? Ever wonder why in the Bible it says to love your neighbour as yourself? And yet this same comandment does not appear in the Koran. Think about it.
    I honestly don't know why I bother. It's like someone said: it's hard to explain colour to a blind man.
     
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  11. AliQureshi

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    #51
    First of all, Saudi Arabia is run on religion not laws like in Canada or the U.S.A, there is as much freedom as the Quran Offers, sure you won't agree with it if your not a Muslim, but then again I wouldn't agree with the bible, so we obviously feel the same way.. You cannot run a Muslim country with the type of laws in Canada or U.S.A. especially if you want to maintain and continue practicing religion. Thats why there is a reason women are not allowed to take of there scarf or expose they're body. They can do it anywhere else but not in Saudi Arabia.. People constantly mention democracy, which is a good system but think about it. In Pakistan there is democracy, women there rarely wear scarfs anymore, rarely cover up as a good Muslim should, same goes for in India:p you get the idea, people want to do what they can't :p, I'm in Canada I don't practice like a good Muslim should. My point is the rules are like that in Saudi Arabia for a reason. They want people to maintain good practice & go by the book = you go to heaven. lol in the end they just helping you out, the rules are tough, you break some thats fine, but if you go overboard i guess you suffer the consequences.
     
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    #52
    Did i say such a thing ? I simply answered your question.
    They deal with criminals in a much more, how to say, barbaric way than other countries.
     
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    #53
    What about the British Empire? what about the both World Wars (trigered and fought among the west and killed millions of innocent)? what about the Cold War? What about the war in vietnam which last for over 2 decades? And please do not tell us about our God, seek one for yourself you’re going to need it
     
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    #54
    What your saying is ignorant, read the Quran first bro :p, check it out. How can you say the Quran promotes war and violence. Not true. In my religion you can't hit an animal if it hits you back. Violence?? You can't show hate or be angry at another Muslim?? More Violence? what are you talking about??

    EDIT: The Quran also says, you can't degrade other religions.. ? how do you associate this to violence?
     
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    #55
    So you indirectly accepting that their success because of this deal?If you are saying that then every country should impose those rules so the citizens can have a peaceful sleep.
     
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    #56
    Waiting for proteindude's response..................now I want to know his view point.
     
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    #57
    which post # are you referring to?
     
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  18. AliQureshi

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    #58
    "Hijacking Planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood constitute a form of injustice that can not be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts."
    Shaykh Abdul Aziz al-Ashaikh, Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and Chairman of the Senior Ulama, on September 15th, 2001

    "The terrorists acts, from the perspective of Islamic law, constitute the crime of hirabah (waging war against society)."
    September 27, 2001 - Fatwa, signed by:
    Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, Grand Islamic Scholar and Chairman of the Sunna and Sira Countil, Qatar
    Judge Tariq al-Bishri, First Deputy President of the Council d'etat, Egypt
    Dr. Muhammad s. al-Awa, Professor of Islamic Law and Shari'a, Egypt
    Dr. Haytham al-Khayyat, Islamic scholar, Syria
    Fahmi Houaydi, Islamic scholar, Syria
    Shaykh Taha Jabir al-Alwani, Chairman, North America High Council

    "Neither the law of Islam nor its ethical system justify such a crime."
    Zaki Badawi, Principal of the Muslim College in London. Cited in Arab News, September 28, 2001.

    "It is wrong to kill innocent people. It is also wrong to praise those who kill innocent people."
    Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, Pakistan. Cited in the New York Times, September 28, 2001.

    "What these people stand for is completely against all the principles that Arab Muslims believe in."
    King Abdullah II, of Jordan; cited in the Middle East Times, September 28, 2001.

    The above statements by high ranking international Muslim scholars and leaders appeared in an advertisement placed by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, in the New York Times, October 17th, 2001 (p. A 17)

    "I'm a Muslim. I've been a Muslim for 20 years. I want the world to know the truth about Islam. I wouldn't be here to represent Islam if it were the way the terrorists make it look...Islam is for peace."
    Former World Heavyweight boxing champion, Muhammad Ali, at the telethon benefit concert, September 21, 2001.

    "Those terrorists must be reading a completely different Quran than the rest of us. This isn't about Islam. It's about terrorism."
    US Marine Corps Captain Aisha Bakkar-Poe.

    "Terrorists claiming to act in the name of Islam is like a knife through my heart - that people would practice Islam, but do deeds like what they've done. It's not true faith. Some people twist religion to the way they think."
    US Army Captain Arneshuia Balial, a convert to Islam since 1987.

    Read all those quotes, your just getting mixed messages, ill also find a quote from the Quran
     
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    #59
    Whatever have described here. Now what do you think? Now what do you say?
     
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    #60
    " Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8) "

    " Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them. Once the Prophet Muhammad said: {A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth.}8 "

    " Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10 "

    Islam promotes peace and respect for everything on earth! I don't know what your talkin' about protiendude I don't see where it says you can hurt other ppl
     
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