This is more Jew-bashing crap. So the media is not pro Arab??? You're probably correct. That is why every newspaper in USA, Australia, CAnada and UK showed those Danish cartoons. Whooops, no newspapers in these Christian countries showed those cartoons. I wonder why they didn't? Could it be they didn't show the cartoons not to offend the Jews? Or they didn't show the cartoons not to offend the muslims? So who is controlling the media again? And why is September 11 downplayed in the media? Hmmm...
what planet are you on? here in the UK we have had plenty of programmes to mark the anniversary of september llth. and as for the danish cartoon that was way over publicised in an effort to stir up racial hatred, which predictably it did. a storm in a teacup sums it up. as for being anti-jewish, please give it a rest, i tolerate anyone of any religion, but am talking about the israeli government here, not ordinary jewish people. i really do think that you must be seriously out of touch. the west supports israel, always has and probably always will, which is why it is one of the wealthiest and well armed nations in the world, as opposed to the palestinians who are the under-dogs here. mighty against small. you cannot back the former against the latter, it is immoral!
You know what puzzles me? there are 50 million muslim brothers living around Israel. Surely they can absorb the small number of Palestinian brothers. A very simple solution don't you think? I think so too. The only problem then would be the Islamic propaganda will have to stop.
why should those living around israel absorb palestinians, when palestine is their homeland. that would like telling everybody in the UK to go and live in france, after all we are all westerners, so what would be the problem? as for muslim propaganda against the west, yes they do it big style, but then we are just as guilty of producing anti-muslim propaganda. it's tit for tat. or an eye for an eye if you would prefer. you seem really hung up on this 'jew bashing' thing, but really we have a right to 'bash' any group of people who may be literally bashing others. i don't know about you but i love to have a bash at anyone i feel is abusing human rights, and that includes muslims, jews, christians, and any other organised religious group i have missed out, oh and not forgetting our good old secular governments, who are as guilty as anyone else.
Why shouldn't the muslim brothers absorb a handfull of Palestinians? It is an extremely small number of Palestinians when you consider how many muslims live around Israel. And don't tell me the incredibly small tiny Israel (look on a map) can be such a huge problem for the muslim neighbourhoods. I like to use common sense.
you cannot make a people leave their homeland and live elsewhere because commonsense dictates it. in this case why not ask the israelis to go and live in america, after all that is a big enough country and most of them are from there anyway. can't you see how immoral your suggestion is? these are people we are talking about not counters in a game that can be moved anywhere! i am seriously wondering why you don't enter israeli politics, looks like you'd fit in really well.
The facts remain Israel is not the problem. The arabs are. Palestine never existed as a country. It was always Jewish land. The muslims only care about this piece of land because it's important to the Jews. By the way, the palestinians left themselves after being warned there would be a war. They knew that land never belonged to them in the first place. And since these are people like you said, I don't quite see it that way. People don't go and blow up innocent kids on buses and teach their own kids to grow up and be martyrs. facts are very stubborn things. You should study the facts and not jump on the band wagon. These people have been out of Israel for over 40 years. 40 years. You don't think in 40 years their muslim brothers could have come up with a solution?
firstly israel was created by the allies, the brits, americans, french etc., after the second world war, until then the palestinians had lived there for centuries. so ok if you are talking about israel belonging to the jews in biblical times, then yes back then it belonged to them, but we are not talking about history we are talking about present times. and as for hamas committing acts of terrorism on jewish targets, i don't support that any more than anyone else, but nor do i support israeli tanks bulldozing palestinian communities and killing innocent palestinian men, women ,and children on an almost daily basis. please don't tell me to get my facts straight when it is obviously you who needs a lesson in the history of the establishment of israel.
So the allies decided one day to give these no ones a piece of land. And just by coincidence this piece of land happened to be Israel. And even more strangely these new folks started talking the same language. Lots of coincidences don't you think? And these barbarian Jews...For no reason whatsoever they (the Jews) go and kidnap Palestinian soldiers, they go and blow themselves up on Palestinian buses while kids are going to school. They also go to the Olympics and massacre innocent athletes. Hang on a second: I am not getting my facts right now am I? And those innocent people were killed in the September 11 attacks it was the Jews in the streets celebrating. Now I am really confused.
you know what talking to you reminds me why the middle east is in such a mess. thankfully i am not bigoted with respect to jews, muslims, christians, or any race, but you are certainly bigoted against muslims. perhaps you would prefer to just kill all palestinians, oh sorry i forgot, israelis are doing that already!
No you are definitely not bigoted at all, especially in regards to the Israelis. You would be such a fair judge. I am seeing this more and more. You somehow managed already to minimise what the Palestinians do while blaming the Jews even more. Not bigoted at all. You just come up with a very balanced view. A view that would make every Palestinian hold you in high regard.
bigoted! hah that is a good one, i told you before i am against human abuses and injustices in this world, and what israelis are doing to palestinians is morally wrong, and i am not alone in thinking this, in fact i have jewish friends who feel the same. not all jews or muslims are bigots. thank god! and i don't belong to either camp, for i am not religious. i am against injustice where ever and whenever it occurs, in iran, iraq, turkey, america, britain, and yes, in israel. as a member of amnesty international i read regular reports on the atrocities committed by the mighty against the small, and i can't help it if one of those named is a nation you respect. don't be so blinkered.
Exactly. We are talking about present times. In present, we have a legal state called Israel. Deal with it. (And by dealing with it, i don't mean blow shit up, k ?)
When did I say you're bigoted??? Didn't I say you presented a balanced view? Amnesty International: great organisation. You keep mentioning the bad Israeli guys. Of course. They were behind Tianamin Square, and behind Darfur and behind Iran_Iraq war. Man these guys are everywhere. Must always bring the Jews in. And when I go on a plane they search me for Jewish boms. I agree the Jews need to be exposed. See, I am not bigoted either I am also exposing the really bad guys (the Jews again, who else).
i only talked about the jews because everyone else was, so i joined in the debate, but if you want to start on iran, i'm up for it! name the rogue state.
Sure, because EVERYBODY. That just sums it up. That's all that matters. I have nothing against Iran. They are the nice guys. The ones that call for the destruction of the Jews.
am not sure what your point is now. that we shouldn't all debate something just because it is about a particular race or people, inasmuch as 'everybody' is talking about it, quite frankly i find that strange, seeing as on other threads everybody is talking quite openly about different racial/religious groups, not just jews, or to be more correct israelis. and am hoping you were being sarcastic about iran.
LOL. Fox News is complete trash. I can't believe you said it gives 'balanced views'. The only people who believe that are the idiots who are fooled by its bias. Where the hell have you been?
The simple logic says, if Israel has nuclear weapons, why can't Iran, or any other country for that matter?
Because those who are in charge of Iran are crazy bastards, maybe ? That is sufficient enough reason not to allow Iran have nuclear weapons.