Gay Marriage: Should It Be Allowed?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by melbel, Jul 6, 2007.

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Should gay marriage be allowed?

  1. Yes

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    45.8%
  2. No

    167 vote(s)
    54.2%
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  1. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #421
    Just because gay people would be allowed to get married, you think more people would turn gay? Let me suggest that the human species will continue to thrive if we allow same-sex marriages..
     
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  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #422
    Do you mean that decent people don't have oral sex? How do decent people do it with lights on or off? Is it OK to be fully naked or should you be covered and don't look at each other body? :rolleyes::D
     
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  3. okgaz

    okgaz Well-Known Member

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    #423
    But proteindude, it's a great source of protein!!!
     
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  4. KingofKings

    KingofKings Banned

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    #424
    Hey come on.... maybe you can meet me and I let ya change your mind. ;)
     
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  5. okgaz

    okgaz Well-Known Member

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    #425
    lmao I'm surprised nobody said this sooner.

    Read what she said tho, I can only assume you'll put her off so bad she will then want a gay marriage?

    btw that's a good point selltrib, in countries where it's too controversial to allow gay marriage why not introduce a system where they could atleast have equal rights. It may be impossible to make all of society see same sex relationships as legitimate but the law shouldn't be homophobic too.
     
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  6. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #426
    If you think it's such a great idea maybe you should make a busines of it. Collect it and then sell the protein. I wonder though who would buy it. I have a feeling it will not be the family oriented people.
     
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  7. KingofKings

    KingofKings Banned

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    #427
    I think it's wrong to allow gay marriages, for real. What do you want your adopted children to say in school. I have two dad's... or I have two moms? :p
     
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  8. okgaz

    okgaz Well-Known Member

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    #428
    Ew, gross.
     
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    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #429
    Yes, the same way that, years ago, a child said (s)he adopted. It was hard to say, it's now easy. It's just a question of time. I'm also convinced that some gay couple may bring more love and attention to their children than some straight couples in this world...
     
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  10. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #430
    You could be right. I fail to see it though. I see so many gays obsessed with their own "rights" but still haven't heard of an altruistic gay organisation that is solely set up for helping others (hospitals or orphanages). All I see from the gays is: me, myself and I. My rights to do this that and the other. Me, me , me and me only.
     
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  11. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #431
    You still didn't answer my question.
     
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  12. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #432
    I see my question is at the top followed by no answer. How about we get the answer to my question first and then we move to the next one? Sounds like a fair deal to me. What you think?
     
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  13. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #433
    Your question is, in simple words;
    "Why should gay people have the same rights as we have, if they don't contribute to society enough, for my taste ?"

    You don't need to build an organization to be a 'contributer'. Many gay people can contribute anything to anyone without you even knowing it.
    Freddy Mercury from Queen, for example, he contributed a whole lot to the world in his time. His music inspired many people around the world, and still continuous to do so. Would you take that as a contribution, or is that 'not enough' because he didn't fund building a hospital or something like that ?

    More than that, everyone who does not contributes to society in 'your way' must not receive the same rights as you do ? How about the poor families who don't have enough food on their table ? They cannot contribute as much as others. Should they get less rights ?

    So now, answer my question.
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #434
    Ok, so we agree, there isn't a single (not one) gay altruistic group that you can think of. All that gay groups/organisations are interested in is themselves and their sexual obsession.

    Just to clarify: you are asking how I contribute as in me personally or you are asking how I view the contribution of heterosexuals in general being superior to the (non) contribution of gays.
     
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  15. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #435
    Not that hard to understand. Personally, how do you contribute to society.

    And;
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #436
    I don't put myself higher than anyone else. If I do make it to heaven it's not because I am better it's because I saw myself a sinner and accepted I am not good enough.

    As a non gay, I don't waste my time sleeping around and spreading diseases and then becoming a burden on doctors payed for by taxes. I am faithful to my wife and kids so I make someone else's life better. It is not all about self gratification. I help out at a church that goes on the streets and feeds the hungry and helps others in other countries get fresh water and some medical care. There is nothing else that much better about me. So go ahead: is that it? Is this what makes you special or superior?
    They may look like simple reasons but matter a lot to my wife and kids and to that guy in Africa who gets to drink a cup of clean water. There may be slightly more but I am taught not to boast. To me it's not about personal rights but about personal responsibility.
     
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  17. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #437
    That's a weak answer.
    I am PRETTY sure that there are a lot of people that help out a certain organization in bringing food and water to the needed. When i say that there are a lot of people, this includes gay people.
    You clearly said that gay people should not have the same rights as us heterosexuals, because they do not contribute to society. So, should these poor people in Africa, who you help to feed and water, do they deserve less rights because they cannot contribute to society ? By your logic, that would be the case.

    Then you go on about saying it's not about personal rights. Quite hypocritical of you, isn't it ?

    It very much is about personal rights. There is simply no reason why gay people should get less rights than you, me or anyone else. It is simply non of your business where they stick they penises in.
    Sadly, every time i see these kind of discussions, i have less respect for the people who believe in the Bible and follow it blindly like sheep. Use a bit of common sense, boggle your minds about certain issues, ask 'why is that so' sometimes.
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #438
    Sure dude, the problem is you give these sodomites rights and they continue to ask for more. Where do you draw the line? And the people in Africa get helped most by whom??? The gays or the Christians? And who ended slavery in UK? Like you say, it was one of those Bible dudes for which you have less respect.
    And who opened orphanages and hospitals all over the world?? The Christians again.
    And who gave the world AIDS and then asks the tax payer to foot the bill as we helplessly watch these dudes die as a consequence of their lifestyle? The reason I am dealing with gays is because just like me man they are sinners and if they don't repent of their sins they (like me) will have a whole eternity to pay for it.
    I got to follow the Bible. After all, everyone has opinions and yet the most influential person of all time is still a Jewish carpenter by the name of Jesus Christ. Your opinions (same as mine) will die with you. Jesus teachings will last forever. I would rather go with Him than with what anyone else thinks. Like Jesus said: No one (that means no exception) can serve two masters. You cannot serve God and the devil.
     
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    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #439
    The line is drawn when gay people will have the same exact rights as you, me and other heterosexuals have.

    Regarding all of your other post, it is clear that you follow your almighty Jesus, and that his words will last forever, yet yours and mine will die with us.

    As selltrib presented in her earlier post:
    What would be your excuse to these questions ? That it's out of context ? That it isn't perceived correctly ? That you shouldn't follow the bible AS IS (which contradicts with your opinion about gays) ?
     
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  20. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #440
    no we don't agree, I have seen no proof of the that other then your posts

    and a 2 second search of the internet shows you are wrong http://www.washblade.com/2005/9-9/news/national/alt-kat.cfm

    and saying this is kind of like saying that a hiking club is only interested in hiking so therefore they are bad people, it doesn't make sense

    also there is a good chance there is no god and your bible is just a bunch of nonsense, so quoting it is pretty irrelevant
     
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