My New Social Bookmarking Site - Tizags.com - Please Review

Discussion in 'Websites' started by iShopHQ, Sep 11, 2007.

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    I finished development on my newest project, a social bookmarking site along the lines of reddit, digg, newvine and others. Like most developers, I built it because there were features I felt were missing in others, or they had more than I wanted, or not enough.

    Made the site live Friday.

    Requesting anyone who can to take a look and offer feedback. I'm very interested in what someone beside the few developer friends I have shown it too think!

    Tizags in a nutshell:
    • Submit links to interesting pages or sites
    • Outbound links are direct, no 'nofollow'
    • Tag based classification
    • A WORKING search (hear that reddit fans?)
    • Positive or negative filter by tags or user
    • Super double secret probation algo that keeps new links on the front page long enough for them to be seen (unlike reddit and digg where down voters can keep your link from ever even showing up!)
    • Report feature for inappropriate links
    • Save Links
    • Add Friends
    • and more

    Please take a look:http://tizags.com

    Thanks-
     
    iShopHQ, Sep 11, 2007 IP
  2. Outlaw_Racing

    Outlaw_Racing Well-Known Member

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    I think it probably does do what you say it does but it is mega busy, could it also end up foul with the search engines due to the amount of links on the front page? Less is sometimes best
     
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  3. iShopHQ

    iShopHQ Peon

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    Thanks for the feedback Outlaw!

    Do you think more whitespace would make it less busy? Each submitted link is displayed the same way and has the same associated links.

    As for too many links, not sure what to do about that. Each tag has to be a link, and applicable functions associated with each link need to be accessible.

    After years of tinkering with site, I've decided more than basic SEO is a waste of time. For every 'rule' some SEO specialist tells you, there are dozens of examples of sites that break it that rank well.

    Here's my guide on how to rank in ANY search engine
    Using good design principles, build a site visitors find useful or interesting
    Update the site regularly to keep it useful and interesting

    Best way to make a site useful or interesting:
    Give visitors an investment in the site (build a community)

    Do that and in six months you'll have a robust and growing site.
     
    iShopHQ, Sep 11, 2007 IP
  4. hatching

    hatching Peon

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    Just like what outlaws said. The site looks really busy, but hey, I love developing sites that look busy. At the end, keeping it simple (less) makes it more friendly for most users.
     
    hatching, Sep 11, 2007 IP
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    nice site dead easy and quick to use
     
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  6. iShopHQ

    iShopHQ Peon

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    hatching, chatpup

    Thanks for the comments!

    hatching - not sure I can take anything off the screen, but I'll play with white space, see if I can make it feel more 'open'
     
    iShopHQ, Sep 12, 2007 IP
  7. nscdn

    nscdn Active Member

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    This is some of best advice that can be given. The site has a good layout and design, but as others have mentioned, a little busy.

    Good Luck!
     
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  8. Jasonb

    Jasonb Well-Known Member

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    nice site, looks like a mixture of digg and delicious

    the higher you get the page rank of the site the more people will use it. if you buy loads of unique blog posts, text links ect.. you should get better, 1 question... i dont see any ads on this site. how do you propose to make money on it?


    good luck matey! i hope the project does well for you
     
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  9. iShopHQ

    iShopHQ Peon

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    JasonB

    Another one of my guiding principles: don't build a website to make money, build a website to get traffic. Once you get traffic, you'll figure out a way to make money.

    Seriously though, no point in trying any sort of advertising or anything until it's starts generating frequent and regular hits.
     
    iShopHQ, Sep 12, 2007 IP
  10. dreamache

    dreamache Member

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    I don't have too many issues with this design... but I think it could be improved a bit..

    • The 2px dark brown border around the 2 primary content sections, try lightening that significantly, to where it's only slightly darker than the background color
    • Not all too certain if I like the standard blue font color
    • Right align the "Show Page: 1 2 3" and stick it on the same line as "Page 1 : 1 - 25"
    • Need a bit more distinction between the "posted by" and "tags" area, and the actual article descriptions. Perhaps encase those 2 lines in a div with a background color slightly darker than that baige color.
     
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  11. iShopHQ

    iShopHQ Peon

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    good stuff, dreamache, thanks,

    I dimmed the border, added a separator between description and post info section

    will do the realign page numbers too - I like that

    I tried different color and style for the links, but ultimately went back to the basic. I wanted a way for the user to take in at a glance the links on a page, and blue underlined text has been ingrained into our web dna now....
     
    iShopHQ, Sep 13, 2007 IP
  12. iShopHQ

    iShopHQ Peon

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    Tizags Update:

    Finished the Tizags rss feed. The feed serves the top 10 Tizags links from the home page. If the site continues to get more users and the demand is there, I'll add RSS to member's save lists.

    Tinkered with the ranking algo; wanted a little less emphasis on the number of votes and more on time. This guarantees new links will get visibility on the home page - unlike reddit or digg where very few ever make it.

    Corrected formating error in search results page, both with the links listing and the tag cloud.

    A user asked for the capability to easily open links in a new window, so added an icon at the end of each link listing that allows just that.

    Changed maximum individual tag length from 20 to 25 characters.

    In a comment post on reddit, a user wished for a way to hide links, since, in that user's opinion, the report a link feature was a joke. So now on Tizags you can hide a link; simply click 'hide' on any link and the page will refresh with that link no longer showing. To manage your hidden links, click on 'profile' in the upper right, then the 'manage hidden links' (in case you hid one you didn't mean to).

    Added a favicon

    Tinkered with tag sizing to get more contrast between sizes.

    Added a 'clear tag feature'. Now shows what tag you are filtering on (if any) and gives the option to clear it.

    Changed the new link insert to automatically add a vote from the person who submitted the link. The supposition is if you're submitting it, you're voting for it.

    Added title tag to tag links; title includes number of posts that have that tag.

    Added a redirect script to always resolve the URL to http://tizags.com. 1) Keeps the URL shorter, 2) reduced risk of dupe content for www versus non-www version.

    Worked out a method using an synchronous AJAX call to increment a click counter for the links, while at the same time keep direct links. So when you click a link, the click gets counted, but it doesn't have to go through a redirect to do it. Future plans include incorporating number of clicks into the ranking algo.

    Changed the default from 10 links on the home page to 25. Ten just didn't seem to be enough.
     
    iShopHQ, Sep 27, 2007 IP
  13. jetset001

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    #13
    Nice site. I liked the design layout
     
    jetset001, Sep 29, 2007 IP
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    t0mb Active Member

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    I would change the grey background color, it's too bland at the moment. Also, you may want to give a few different font options just in case your visitors don't have Verdana.
     
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  15. iShopHQ

    iShopHQ Peon

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    hey t0mb - whaddya think - a light brown or something?

    added arial to style for font-family
     
    iShopHQ, Sep 29, 2007 IP
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    t0mb Active Member

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    That's definitely an improvement, makes your tizags column stand out more. I didn't read the content earlier but you've created a very marketable site. Good luck with it.
     
    t0mb, Sep 29, 2007 IP
  17. tushardhoot1

    tushardhoot1 Active Member

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    Is this a custom script?

    If it isn't, I recommend pligg 9.8

    It looks way more professional.
     
    tushardhoot1, Sep 29, 2007 IP
  18. freelancewebaz

    freelancewebaz Well-Known Member

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    Very cluttered looking. Also, the +/- links for each URL are too small IMO. Color scheme could use some work too.
     
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  19. zumzee

    zumzee Banned

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    #19
    why all webmasters want to start digg clone websites ?
     
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  20. iShopHQ

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    #20
    looked at pligg - it sucks

    if you don't like the color scheme, offer some suggestions

    does digg have tags when you enter a story? didn't think so - neither does reddit. can you get a submission to the front page on either? didn't think so. don't you get tired of waiting for digg to load - I know I do.
     
    iShopHQ, Sep 30, 2007 IP