It's official Google has opened up a can of whoop ass on directories

Discussion in 'Directories' started by Dave E, Sep 2, 2007.

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  1. templates

    templates Notable Member

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    #581
    yea,there seems to be alot of directory haters before all this,and now they come out of the woodwork..ive seen a member that has 13k plus post that i have nver seen in this section all of a sudden dropping his "wisdom" about how directory sites are no good...why now i wonder ?
     
    templates, Sep 10, 2007 IP
  2. aditya_sfs

    aditya_sfs Peon

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    #582
    Whom r u talking about
     
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  3. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #583
    I have some ideas.

    http://www.zorg-links.com

    look at the top sites listed there. All other bid directories owned by chris and lance, jeremy etc.

    Now go to webdirectorylist.com

    you see my site and beacon there?

    then you go to beacon....who is there? me, chris jeremy etc.

    So you go to bigweblinks. who is listed there? me again. Chris has his sites listed there on the sidebar. So we go to cdhnow.com.

    who is listed high there? suprise suprise suprise me, beacon, directorydump

    starting to see a pattern.

    Here is where the theory begins. Google de-values link exchanges. Google does this with their clever algorithm powered robot, the googlebot.

    Googlebot crawls the web, and finds all sites and their backlinks as we know. Not human edited, just a robot made to do things via human programming.

    All sites with the same owner that are interlinked look like link exchanges. All sites listed on homepages of bid directories like mine, chirs', lance's sites etc may look like the link exchange of all link exchanges to googlebot.

    How does googlebot know these are paid advertisements? They dont see the bid amount or have an algorithm to detect a bid directory do they? no, it could just be a huge homepage link swap for all they know.

    Its just a theory i have. I just find it a big coincidence that sites that havent been banned arnt high bidders ( some are) and they dont interlink to a large extent.

    Your thoughts?
     
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  4. Wealdie

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    #584
    I think you have hit the top of the nail with a very big hammer


     
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  5. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #585
    It's called interlinking. That's what we've been talking about.
     
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  6. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #586
    Yeah, and i think it was automatic, not manually done.

    There is not a lot that can be done to reverse it, if it is the reason behind it.
     
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  7. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #587
    Einstein developed a theory that changed many events in physics,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein
    But nothing much has changed since then and especially the events of the last few days have made little or no difference ;)
    Speculation thats all this is :)
     
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  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #588
    Hardly.

    If any of you had been paying attention over - oh I don't know, the last 3 years? - none of this should have been a surprise. Blatant PR trafficking. Blatant link buying and selling. Blatant interlinking aka link exchange schemes.

    And then Google took action. Well, duh. What did you think was going to happen?
     
    minstrel, Sep 11, 2007 IP
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    popotalk Notable Member

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    #589
    True and lessons learned that even humans have to grow naturally and "ORGANIC".
     
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    Freewebspace Notable Member

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    #590


    I know how it is difficult to find index or find those sitewide links by a bot etc.,

    I am sure that directories has been penalized manually only
     
    Freewebspace, Sep 11, 2007 IP
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    popotalk Notable Member

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    #591
    Nice post and the best overall from you. :D
     
    popotalk, Sep 11, 2007 IP
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    #592
    I have noticed during the recent turmoil my directory has shot up in the rankings, has anyone else noticed this?
     
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    #593
    Congratulations even though I don't know your directory. (url please) :)
    btw Laika is the name of our German Shepperd mutt. ;)
     
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    #594
    I guess one of the solution to avoid any bad surprise is to remove "directories" category from your directory...

    Emmanuel
    B2B directory :: Getbiz.co.uk
     
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  15. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #595
    why would that help....
     
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    pctec Well-Known Member

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    #596
    I was wondering the same thing mikey...
    But I figured it must be obvious and I didnt want to appear stupid ;)
     
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  17. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #597
    yeah, i'm just dumb and had to ask the clever guy to answer the obvious question ;):D
     
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    #598
    duhhh lets not call them "directories" lets call them "resources":rolleyes:
     
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    #599
    Why would a bot have trouble finding sitewides :rolleyes:

    IMO sitewides are about as "above the radar" as it is possible to get :p
     
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    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #600
    One thing "matt" had asked was that "sitewides" If for advertising then they wouldn't have any problem with "no follow" being used and/or
    do like what was done on www.addurl-links.com (Not Ready yet :eek:) where it just becomes the sponsored categories and sitewides are abolished/eliminated.

    thx
    malcolm
     
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