Gay Marriage: Should It Be Allowed?

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Should gay marriage be allowed?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    167 vote(s)
    54.2%
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  1. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #301
    hahahahahha common sense eh?

    it was common sense back when it was only a man with a woman and when people like you mentioned this they were probably stoned for even opening their mouths, yeah that's very common.

    you have a closed mind sir and you want only to believe in what benefits your agenda.
     
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    #302

    You are just trying to be smart, you know talk smart, but you dont get away being a wise guy here at DP.

    And you would probably be amongst the one that stoned me.
     
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  3. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #303
    nice way to ramble on about what i'm trying to do while completely ignoring my question. great way at dodging the question..

    so does anyone have the answer for me?
     
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    #304
    I'm afraid you're managing quite well on your own, nate; you need no help from me.

    Your terror smells to me of an unreasonable fear - that somehow gay marriage will affect straight life, and straight marriage. You fail to see that whether or not you accept such a concept, gay people will be gay, and we straight folks will be straight. If people wish to get married, they will do so for any host of reasons - economically, it makes sense; they wish to consummate their private with a public declaration of love; (many) straight folks want kids, and find this the best way to manage such a decision; many more. As I plan on staying within the bounds of my own marriage, I won't be spending too much time worrying about why other people get married.

    I've asked, I'll ask again: what will happen if gays obtain the right to legally marry?
     
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    #305
    I believe it was answered directly. Did you have another?
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #306
    "And you would probably be amongst the one that stoned me."

    hmmm no.. i just want to understand the true definition of marriage, and you're trying to make me out as some crazy homophobe who just hates gays. i have nothing against gays, this isn't about gays. it's about the boundaries of marriage



    something noone will answer me on.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #307
    where was it answered directly, if it was then post it.
     
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    #308
    Asked, and answered. Directly and immediately. This is your "boundary."

    Now, why are you avoiding my question. What are you afraid of?
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #309
    again here we go, making me out to be afraid of gays. that's the only side of your debate, you have nothing else so i expect you to just keep playing that card.. that's fine, everyone else reading this will know your true depth of knowledge.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #310
    LMFAO!!!

    so someone just made up their own definition of marriage, lmfao. i didn't ask for your opinion. i want the written definition of what marriage is.


    your question, what am i afraid of? nothing. but i actually observe things instead of let other people decide for me. and right now you and everybody else aren't proving me wrong or "pwning" me.
     
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    #311
    I'm not playing anything, nate. Your deck is an open hand. And yes, I'm quite sure everybody reading this will ... uh, I dunno. I'll leave this to others.

    Curious how this still can't be managed. Seems pretty straightforward:

     
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    #312
    Oh, OK, this question. I answered your ridiculous question re: animals and "boundaries." I did ask if you had another.

    Well, seems I was pretty close. Here's what I said, to refresh:

    Here's wiki:

    Seems close enough for discussion over a pint, hmm?

    Still curious how you can't seem to manage an answer to the simple question:

     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #313
    the hell if i know what will happen but i know what it does.. it waters down the meaning of marriage and opens it up to forward corruption. if you can't even tell me what the definition of it is now, take a guess at where the future of marriage is headed.

    you're so concerned about the.. "what will it mean to you if it happens" side. i don't play that dumb game, it's a typical statement i hear every day and it gets old.. fast.

    i already asked you my question and you can't give a legit answer.. now, if you want me to keep this dumb debate up, go find me that definition.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #314
    still no definition.. just spinning off topic as always. i don't care why people marry, if you can't get to the point of the subject then its a really pointless arguement.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #315
    "Still curious how you can't seem to manage an answer to the simple question:"

    already answered that, can't play my same cards pal
     
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    #316
    If two people of the same sex want to marry each other then that should be their business. People who think its "disgusting" or because "God" says its wrong shouldnt have the right to void that choice from others. Its a free country.
     
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    #317
    OK. "i know what it does.. it waters down the meaning of marriage and opens it up to forward corruption." In other words, the institution is somehow this entity, removed from the human beings that make it. As such, it is objectively corruptible. I rather find it is a living thing precisely as it is made up of the folks who partake of it.

    A definition was provided. I can't help you with 3rd-grade grammar, as the word "definition" appears to be beyond your grasp. You might try looking up "definition" in your much heralded online dictionary. Good luck with all that.

    Now, folks, if I am to stay in this straight marriage, I need to leave nate to his private thoughts. A nice pinot, several cheeses, and my lovely wife awaits. And she's glaring.:D
     
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    #318
    Yes. Thank you for making the attempt after being asked repeatedly.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #319
    i can see those on the other side of this debate have come up with no legitimate answer. that's fine. i can understand your side of the argument, but when you try to rub shit in my face like you know it all, just know where you stack up.. cause when it comes down to it you can't answer my question.

    and when you do find that, well my hat is off to you, you will have put me in my place.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #320
    wow great for you man. glad to see you're proving that you're not gay.

    a definition was never provided, you gave someone's opinion. then you gave me something from wiki which also was someone's opinion on "why people marry" that wasn't my question.

    you aren't outsmarting me this time like you think you are.

    i also answered your question. and i'll say it again, i am not afraid. you asked a question that requires my direct answer and i gave it to you, you can't keep asking it, that is lame bro.

    i asked you something that requires you to find the ultimate technicalities of. so far you have nothing.
     
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