September 11, 2001 attacks were planned by the United States government

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  1. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #61
    Yeah you are done. You have been. You just dont realize it. but I was referring to dittmieier anyways. he's the noob. you are just clueless ;)

    So you are giving up on the WTC7 line? You have no intellectual curiosity in the strange deviation from plan - 4 planes and 1 demolition. It doesnt' intrigue you at all, huh? Everything else, I assume you have been convinced of; is this the point? the planes, everything else? All settled, right? Or just giving up.

    so you don't actually care about the quote, in context? will you look at the real-time quote and not a pbs interview after the fact?
     
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  2. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #62
    No, he never scammed me at all. I wasn't saying it like that. He was 100% honest with his business dealings.

    Just saying I had no idea he was so anti-american...ooops..I mean patriotic.
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #63
    You assumed I attacked you in your quest to be a victim. No where in my comment did I mention your name. I simply said that I don't do business with dishonest people on the forum.

    Check yourself and your facts, before you accuse me of attacking you personally.

    I didn't preference my comment with your name (using your same line of logic and reasoning here...someone?)
     
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  4. MrOrange

    MrOrange Peon

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    #64
    I think what Tesla is trying to say is "I'm clutching at straws"

    Honestly, do you think a government who can't even hide the lie about WMD in Iraq is capable of pulling of stunt like you are proposing Tesla? Have you ever seen the work involved to demolish a building with explosives? There's no way you could hide enough explosives in a building to perform a controlled demolision without everyone noticing, a majority of the pillars need to come out before hand anyway.

    Just stop and think for a moment how many 100's or 1000's of people would have needed to be involved in order to pull off a 'conspiracy' of this size. There's no way in hell you'd be able to keep them all quiet. Sorry, on this fact alone, it's clear your conspiracy theory is bullshit, if there's one thing I've learned is that people will always spill a story for money (And no, a janitor does not count).
     
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  5. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #65
    You ruined my bombshell :( Thanks.

    Here's the list of people who would have had to been involved in 9/11 for it to work. Stunning that not a single person has come forth as part of the conspiracy:
     
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  6. Webray

    Webray Active Member

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    #66
    I've been trying to stay out this, but this MOTHER takes the cake. What's your function? Conjunction Junction! :rolleyes: ... sounds like a Bush plant to me.

    Ray
     
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  7. Rittmeister

    Rittmeister Peon

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    #67
    Well, I'm speaking German natively, English is my second language, but still I would refer to a league as THEY, and also THEY have control of the market.
    Using IT in this context sounds like really bad english to me.
     
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  8. MrOrange

    MrOrange Peon

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    #68
    hehe sorry to spoil your fun lorien.
     
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  9. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #69
    The nfl (it) has control of the market. Microsoft (it) has control of the market.

    It sounds bad (i know), but its not. They would work if you say: The NFL teams (they) have control of the market. English isn't the hardest language to learn for no reason at all.
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #70
    Ah, yet another conspiracy! No doubt alex jones influenced too!

     
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  11. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    #71
    Ummm, what is a "real time quote?" The video clip is right from the documentary that aired on television?

    I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but by the comment you made, you show that the thread I started a few weeks ago about 1 in 4 Americans not reading a book last year is true:http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=446663

    How much do you know about the CIA, or it history? Here is a list of PROVEN CONSPIRACIES THAT ARE NOT DEBATED:

    MKULTRA:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA CIA Mind Control Experiments

    Operation Mockingbird:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird CIA takes over domestic(American) media

    Project SHAD:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_shad Government intentionally exposes U.S. troops to radiation and other harmful effects.

    Project Ajax:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax CIA overthrows democratically elected Iranian president Mossadegh

    Operation PBSUCCESS:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBSUCCESS CIA overthrows president Arbenz

    Government Does Syphilis Study on Black Men:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male Studies done on Black men for Syphillis. Black men die from infection when government could have treated them, but intentionally didn't

    Project Paperclip:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Paperclip U.S. government violates international law by bringing 700 nazi scientists into U.S. Much of this operation is STILL classified.

    REX 84 (Government plan to build detention camps for Americans) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

    Now, come back after reading all this and tell me our government wouldn't kill 3,000 people. Tell me they are not sophisticated enough. You just don't know your history.
     
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  12. MrOrange

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    #72
    You know his argument is weak when it's based around someone saying/not saying the word "IT".

    So Rittemiester/Tesla what are your theories on Bush saying OPEC instead of APEC? Have I missed something here, was this not a simple mis-pronounciation or something more sinister? Please explain.
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #73
    What sort of league is it?
     
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  14. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #74
    On 9/11, tesla. Come on, will ya?

    First off, silverstein doesn't even have the authority to "pull" the building. You realize this right? Right there, theory is debunked, isn't it?

    And this is relevant, how? Stick to the topic at hand or don't reply and leave, tail between legs.

    Oooo.. More ITS

    OPEC (it) controls the oil supply
    AIPAC (it) controls our foreign policy

    Fun with it. Everybody join in!
     
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  15. Rittmeister

    Rittmeister Peon

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    #75
    I'd consider English the easiest language to learn. Certainly not the hardest :)=
    German is way more complex compared.
    Anyway, have a nice day and believe whatever you want. I don't need to forcefully persuade anyone. It's certainly easier for you guys to live inside the matrix than outside. :D
     
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  16. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #76
    Tesla actually showed he does not have any -actual- intellectual curiosity here and is simply parroting what he was told, the second he couldn't reason his way through this:

    See, conspiracy theories force you to suspend any sort of doubt. They require you to believe something, without critical analyzation. Truthers like to stay they are "skeptical" - but they are actually just the opposite. They have given up on skepticism to become totally married to a concept and refuse to believe anything else. Trutherism and conspiracies are just another religion.

    Tesla is showing this very well. Refuses to analyze anything contrary to his beliefs.
     
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  17. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    #77
    All of you guys who call me unamerican for questioning the government don't know your history. This country has had both genocide(of Native Americans) and slavery(for Blacks) and both these happened BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT. You mean to tell me then, that the government isn't smart enough to kill 3,000 Americans, blame some dudes in a cave in the Middle East, then use this as an excuse to invade and take over the region?

    A similar plan was introduced with Operation Northwoords:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

    Yes Gtech, I know the government didn't actually implement Operation Northwoods "at the time" but 911 looks a lot like Operation Northwoods, when you read it and compare it to 911.
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #78
    what do you mean by "looks like"?
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #79
    Makes me want to wang chung tonight!

    "It was a special ops group, that went in under the cover of darkness."

    "It's continuing mission to explore a strange new world, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before.”
     
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  20. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #80
    I call you gullible, not unamerican ;)

    Tesla. Simple question.

    Have you seen any evidence of this hyper-competent government at any time during the Bush administration, other than 9/11? What other plan have they managed to pull off so perfectly?
     
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