Somebody mentioned in a post that 12% of black males between 25-29 years have been in jail. I've been to Africa and can tell you that the black people there are very good hearted. They have much less opportunities, but are people friendly with great attitude. I discussed this with an honest black person and he agreed with me, but added that slavery has part to play in it. Than we sow some black teenagers passing by with "gangsta" kind of look. IMO these teenagers have nothing to remember with slavery though they seemed to like the way they looked and behaved. IMO blacks need good parenting, and to stop playing the "blame" game if they want to be more successful. 12% in jail is too much and if it is not discussed honestly the issue will never be resolved. There is plenty of money for wars, but for Free "good parinting" classes which will be repaid back greatly - no.
So the answer is yes - you do think that government should be monitoring every aspect of our lives to make sure we are playing nice with each other. That's excellent. I'm so glad I don't have to take responsibility for myself or my offspring anymore. What a relief.
I don't believe that it's the school's responsibility alone, but they do play a role... And if the kids aren't brought up right, it becomes the government's responsibility to house, feed, and clothe them while they're serving time...
i know how to solve this problem. it starts with ELIMINATING government not bringing more of it into our homes. the real reason we have this problem is the liberal/racist part of our government wants to monitor the "minorities" because they don't think they can do anything on their own, they NEED their elitist friends in washington. so they bring in all this "fairness" "affirmative action" type mind set and base everything on race and try to dumby everyone down for a few class clowns. you wanna clean up the streets, you wanna get more blacks educated? you get the government the hell away from'em. let'em make decisions on their own instead of having decisions made for'em. lorein is right, we don't need the government telling them how to live.. just the opposite, we need to let them decide for themselves. think about this.. how would you act if the government had a "forcefield" around you, keeping you one tier ahead of everyone else because they don't think you could achieve it yourself. now THAT is disgusting, horrible, and pisses me off. aswell as racism at its finest. but to the thread starter i know your concern. it's something SOCIETY needs to figure out itself.. put the power in the peoples hands not the government and stuff will get done. that's how this country was formed.
Great idea. We -should- bill the families for that cost. I see no reason that their fault should be our burden. I don't believe OP is suggesting it's the school's job. I think he's being a bit more pervasive in his beliefs. I'd disagree its the school's job anyways. Being a good human starts at home when you are born, not at 5 years old when you start school. Schools teach. Parents parent. Here's your problem. OP complains out the 12% in prison; so the solution is to presuppose that 100% of people are going to be criminals and everyone needs a nanny to make sure they are going to be okay. Does that make a lot of sense? I'd look back in time to a point where there wasn't 12% of black males in prison. It's not a long look back either. And see what's changed and why. I'd bet you'll probably find a problem caused by the very same nanny state that OP is wanting to expand to fix the problem they created.
Black male here who grew up without a father in the house.. (but he was there to be a father when I needed, just not always when I wanted him to be there) I agree with the statement of less government but we (blacks) need to also learn and understand accountability, pointing the finger at the government, politicians or other races does not make the situation any better. Fathers need to be just that.. fathers and provide guidance. This issue goes much deeper than I could begin to type.
Somebody gave me an infraction, like I am trying to hurt somebody for discussing this issue. Whoever gave it to me God Bless you man.
race should not be an issue for anything. and when people try to make it a race issue you know something's wrong. people will decide for themselves, being of any race does not make you of LESS STANDARDS. and that is what liberal politicians don't understand. they think all these "minorities" are just uneducated voters at their expense and they want to put a bubble around them that only makes things worse so they can get their vote. so i'm glad you came out and agree with that cause it's the truth.
infraction? for what? I think lack of father figures is one of the fundamental problems. Aren't like 60 or 70% of black kids in a fatherless home these days? The rates are rising for whites and hispanics too. It's a scary trend.
and with gay marriage on the horizon you can bet your poker money it's not gonna get any better. the only solution to these modern day moral problems is a lessening of government, it's amazing what people can do when think for themselves.
It is what it is. I wish I had a solution. If millions of illegal aliens can get jobs and they don't speak english, there must be jobs out there.
I'm with you... In my opinion, we shouldn't bill the families, as some families wouldn't be able to pay, and that's not fair to the family members that did nothing wrong.. In a perfect world, people that committed less-serious offenses should be assigned a "debt to society", but instead of a number of months/years, it would be a monetary value... They then have to work doing manual labor, while in jail, that not only pays for their prison time (food/clothes/"housing"), but also to repay their debt... example... someone robs a bank, they steal 10k, but scare the daylights out of everyone... let's say their "debt" is set at 100k, they work until they can pay off that debt while serving time, then the bank gets their 10k back, and the rest gets divided up and given to those that were negatively influenced by the robbers actions... it's not perfect, but i think it would be a much better system then the one now...
Same with Asians and Indians. They come here with nothing, can hardly speak our language. Yet after a few years, they have cars, homes, and more money than the average American. Yea, slavery was F'd up, but that's long over, it's time for black americans to get their shit together and take some responsibility for their lives. The reason they have such a hard time is because the government has enslaved them via affirmative action, welfare, housing, and other programs. And yes, whites have access to many of these programs too, so maybe it's not these programs that are causing the trouble? I dunno...