Has anyone here joined the military to "fight the war on terror"

I'm sorry, I didn't realize the cheerleader was still here...why are you still here?

 

Hmmmmmmmmmm, I will take a wild stab in the dark........to expose chickenhawks like yourself???

 

I think that in your heart of hearts you know that there is a definitive split in P&R, unless you are more dumb than I give you credit for.

The split is the Bush loving terrorist posse that support him 100% no matter what, led by your hero GTech, and there are a group of us unaffiliated that are against you and GT's gang, people like me and gworld amongst others. The main difference is that we post our own views without the need to post verbatim BS like you crazy gang members do.

If peeps like you and DevilHelz (who I still think has a hope of being saved from the crazy gang) assumed your own style of posting instead of just mirroring GTech like some kind of controlled puppy's then I am very confident that you would get a lot more respect from people like me.

Neither group is going anywhere so these debates will continue, if I was a really dumb f**ker then I would just say that the American Administration was 100% honest to her people but as that is not the case you'll have to put up with ya unca AGS forever mate.

 

We agree. But I still maintain that this endeavor was not properly entered into. It's slow going is as much a Republican failure as a Democrat one. Perhaps more so.

Ok, I get this. But a lot of people have a watered down understanding of the Constitution.

For your reference
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2006/03/army-and-constitution-time-for.php

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2002/pr100402.htm

I'm pretty sure September is the 9th month, which makes it the last month in the third quarter.

You'd be surprised to know that with every debate, Paul's national profile keeps creeping up. He was polling at 0% 6 months ago, and is said to be at 3% now, and that's with spending less money than Huckabee, Brownback et al through the first two quarters.

 

Woah, lots of shit going on here!

GTech, i wouldn't agree with you on calling WDHT a "sell out". That's way too harsh, and untrue. I've read his posts, since the day he came into the P&R, and i never got the impression that he is a "sell out", a traitor or other things like that.
You gave a definition to patriotism:

It says nothing about devoted love, support and defense of the current administration.
How i see it, he doesn't support his country's administration, and because he loves his country, he does not want to to be run by such an administration that could, in his thought, bring his country down.
Now, i might not agree with him, as do you, but i disagree on calling him a "sell out".
I don't think he's one of our regular Ahmadinejad admirers.

 

maybe...some of the repubs in congress were incompetent, which is why they were replaced. If the rest don't get their act together, they will be replaced as well.


Ok, I get this. But a lot of people have a watered down understanding of the Constitution.

here is a better resource for you rather than a ron paul press release:
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/constitution.html

true, sept is month 9, it was getting late last night....also, what poll are you looking at as far as his poll numbers go, just so we can see that he has indeed gone up to 3%?

 

Respect 4 you dude!

 

I'd like to think that, but he keeps proving me wrong. He's been caught too many times making direct accusations against my country. Then goes back to hide behind the premise of "just asking questions." His posts are constructed with one goal in mind...undermining the USA.

We have enough anti-Americans here already. M5Love, gworld, AGS, BFE and a whole slew of keyboard jihadists whose only purpose is to belittle America at every turn. WDHT has become their tool and the sad part is, he apparently doesn't even realize it. There are a lot of people here who claim to be American, but are too weak to stand behind her because it's too popular to bash America these days.

Perhaps some day he'll prove me wrong. Perhaps some day he'll actually start a post with something positive about America or say something good about it. From what I've seen, he doesn't have the ability to do so. Not until November 2008.

 

Great post. A lot of us who are proud of our country are tired of being painted as haters because we do not back the current administration, and regret the actions of past administrations. No where in the definition of a democracy is it said that one has to back policies he doesn't respect or do not reflect his values. That's the kind of stuff that totalitarian and communist governments expect.

One party, no choices, no dissent.

If you don't back the party line, you're a traitor and it's off to the gulag for you! NONSENSE!

I don't see how it is better than the RP press release, you're simply linking to the Constitution. We all know what it says (or at least we should).

Unless you can see some constitutional inaccuracy in either of the two links I posted, they're both fairly sound. We treat our President the exact opposite way his office was intended. We treat the office of the President the way Common wealth countries treat their Prime Ministers. Remember, this country was founded on a unique political system, that was designed to be better and different than the British system we were ruled under.

It was late last night. I smoked a lot of cigarettes while posting and have a massive nicotine headache this morning.

There was a recent article in the Christian Science Monitor (name correct?) that stated he's polling at 3%. And I recall some AP articles recently mentioning he was at 2%. I'm sure this stuff can be googled up. If anyone has some good links for checking recent telephone polls, it would be great if they could share.

 

Give me a break, if you can't handle "direct accusations" as you put it against the Bush administration, that is your problem. You need to take a long hard look at what you stand for, because it obviously does not include freedom of speech. But then again we all see that you have no interest in the consitution of the United States. You pretend to be pro American but the reality is you views are nothing more than examples of facism.

If anyone speaks out against the administration you call them tools of the "anti-Americans". That is rubish, you are the anti-American among us and your name calling, while intended to silence people from speaking out against the Bush regime, is not going to work.

Thanks for seeing that and I'm sure others see it as well.

 

You are simply hiding behind the notion (once again) that you are questioning the Bush administration. This is not factually correct, and you know it. It's a good cover though, because *everyone* hates Bush and no one would dare say speaking out against him was bad. The problem with that premise though, is it's dishonest and not true.

You are tearing your country down. You are doing so because of blind hatred for one man. I reject your brand of patriotism that says "one must ceaselessly and endlessly criticize and attack one's country in order to be patriotic." This is false patriotism. It's hatred for one's country.

Some day, you will actually say something good about your country. Given your history, I suspect it will be right around November 2008. If you do happen to start a post, or ever actually say something positive about America, please let me know. I've yet to see it.

As much as you don't seem to like anyone that stands behind America, I don't particularly care for those who do nothing but put it down. But then I'm not in a popularity contest based upon what's popular these days. I'll stand behind her while you do nothing more than attack her, day in and day out.

Prove me wrong. Let me know when you have something good to say...for a change. Remember, you don't have to be a Bush supporter to stand behind your country. It's a shame more people don't realize that.

 

WOW, I am impressed. Finally someone that dont see only black and white. DevilHellz you understand that someone can love USA without loving Bush. That is a great statement. I wish only gtech and others could think like that, but they are strickt black and white, no shades of grey or any nuances there.

 

Sure would be nice to see someone doing some actual loving, instead of just saying it when backed into a corner.

Someone send me a PM if it ever comes around, k?

 

You keep repeating the same nonsense. Of course people here are used to that still of posting from you. You do not "stand behind America" you only support a neo-con agenda which is harmful to the United States in my opinion and in the opinion of many other Americans.

You can hide your head in the sand and try and get others to do the same. You can pat yourself on the back and feel patriotic because you talk pro Bush and pro administration. Those of us that actually care about the country will continue to speak out against the administration and leave the self congratulatory BS to fascist false patriots such as yourself.

 

In other words, you believe that tearing your country down day in and day out is the new brand of patriotism and you want to be the leader of that new brand. Got it. Like I said, should you ever actually say something good about your country (for a change), let me know. I've yet to see it.

Keep tearing your country down while hiding behind the premise/notion that you are just asking questions. Like you were doing here, and I pointed out your dishonest flaw.

 

If you think questioning one's administration is tearing down one's country then you truly are a fascist.

If I choose to focus on what needs to be fixed in this country rather than participate in your Bush love fest, that is my choice and does not mean I do not love my country.

As far as hiding behind questions, most of the frequent posters here are aware that you are the champion of that. So it is ironic that you would even bring something like that up. Now, you can play semantic games about "making allegations against" vs "questioning" one's administration, but that sort of smoke and mirrors is not fooling anyone.

You are quick to start name calling anyone that says anything negative about the administration. You create a climate of hostility and then accuse people of playing the "battered wife syndrome" when you are called out on it. The forum is on to your games GTech.

 

You could have listened to me couple of months ago and save yourself some irritation by arguing with Gtech. He is just another little Corporal who dreams about the day that he can proudly put his brown shirt on and send some Muslims and "pro-terrorist" Americans to concentration camps.

 

You are right, but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. GTech just happens to be one of the people that if given enough rope will hang himself.

 

I can't blame you since I made the same mistake in the beginning but I have learned my lesson and know now that the best way to handle these little corporals is to show how frighten and ridiculous they are and then laugh at them.

 

More dishonesty. As I've pointed out, you don't question anything. You are simply hiding behind the premise that you are. In fact, as I pointed out in this very thread, you make accusations. There is a difference between tearing down one's country and asking questions. Unfortunately, you choose to tear your country down and then hide behind the premise that you are asking questions. That's dishonest.

So the dishonesty here is:

1) You pretend to be asking questions, but are not. Your posts are designed to tear down our country and you do so time and time again.

2) To deflect from the fact that you have been previously caught, like you have here, hiding behind the dishonest notion of asking questions when you are making accusations, you make a dishonest comment by saying "If you think questioning one's administration is tearing down one's country then you truly are a fascist." When in fact, it is you, that is hiding behind the premise of asking questions.

You want to be patriotic, but you are not willing to do what is necessary to be so, therefore you redefine what it means to suit your agenda.

This isn't about Bush. You are hiding behind Bush because you know most people here hate him. The issues isn't my love for him, but rather your hatred for him. I'd welcome a positive comment about our country. I've made the invitation several times, you just refuse. Apparently you believe saying something positive about your country correlates with supporting Bush. Again, this isn't about Bush, it's about you.

Projection. Projecting your poor qualities on me to cover your own ass, because you know very well that you do nothing more than tear our country down, day in and day out. I've proved that above and your posting history proves that as well. When caught, you try to pretend to be asking questions. As noted in this post, nothing could be further from the truth.

Seeking that forum support now, eh? You should, there are a lot of anti-Americans here who you serve as a tool.

The fact remains, you are tearing your country down. Then hide behind the premise of asking questions. Anyone that really took the time to see the link I keep posting, will see the same thing.

Too bad you are ashamed to come out and admit it. You keep pretending to ask questions and I'll keep exposing your hatred. And, should ever decide to say something good about your country, do let me know. I keep inviting, you keep proving that what I'm saying is right. Thanks for doing my job for me.