I was waiting to see if guerilla was going to answer this, since he proclaims he'll defend his country, but as usual, he let it slide. This is just another example of an absolute lie by AGS and how he supports terrorists by dishonestly trying to absolve them of their crimes. Nothing is beneath the anti-America crowd when it comes to excusing comments like AGS'. That's the difference between us. You have half a brain, I have a full one. That's why I don't need alex jones to do my thinking for me. When? I've never seen it. I've seen you blame it for just about everything. I've seen you excuse anti-America comments, I've seen you excuse pro-terrorist comments. I've never once seen you stand up for your country, except for when it comes to defeat. Pretty sad. Is that what "progressives" train their thoughts with these days? "Defeat is honorable?" There is no plausible answer because it's a dishonest conclusion in the first place. We didn't attack Iraq because of bin laden. Most people know this, but when it comes to dishing out blame for America, *some* don't really care about facts, do they guerilla? Yes. And I take much pride in that. Of course, that entirely depends on who "us" are. There are many here who sell out America daily, there are many here who suffer from BDS, many that believe patriotism has a four year shelf life, and yet many that openly admit and actually support terrorists. Maybe you should define the group you belong to, that represents "us."
Wouldn't you agree that the anti-american forces want us there, as we're an easier target there, then if they had to get into America?
Has it occurred to you that I don't even read AGS' posts? I wasn't aware that I was responsible to read and respond to every comment. I usually look for yours, because they are the most interesting. I thought we were "fightin' em over there, so we don't have to fight'em over here!". And if you're going to bring up WMDs, then please, I've already heard the numerous government admissions that they plain were wrong about them. Which I might conclude means you agree that we went into Iraq under false pretenses. I understand the "you are pro-terrorist, anti-American" rhetoric, but don't you think it's time for a new approach? You can shout it over and over, but I think I've made my position of pro-life, pro-liberty and pro-rule of law pretty clear and consistently in this forum. To your Franklin quote, I'll offer this, someone had it as a signature lately and it was a great choice to display in the P&R forum. Before you worry about Bin Laden holed up in a cave somewhere, you should be worrying about the people making and enforcing our laws, and the people who spend our tax dollars and control our monetary value. At least, that's where my priorities are. In America. Btw, the "hanging together" stuff is cute, until someone gets you talking about Clinton. That's when you're ready to tear down a fellow American in cold blood.
No, the thought hadn't even crossed my mind considering how many times you, a few others and him have teamed up. Amazing what you will let slide when it comes to tearing down America. You may have "thought" that, but I was addressing your usual dishonest comment. Like "blame America first?" "America sucks?" "sis boom rah...America is naughty and needs a spanking?" Thanks, I'll pass on the sissy pacifist self-loathing, low self-esteem rhetoric. Great quote. No bearing on our times though. He also said "In Republics, the great danger is, that the majority may not sufficiently respect the rights of the minority." Incorrect. We have checks and balances in place and they work well. You may be disappointed that rights of terrorists are not being given out like candy, but some of us who care about our country are not. You'd like to think that. I've actually defended Clinton on this forum. You'd have to go back and find it, but someone once said something that wasn't true about him and I corrected it. That's the difference between you and I. You believe defending America means supporting Bush. And what you let slide here more than represents that. Four year patriotism
How can you blame others of "tearing down America", when you're the one that's pushing to leave our troops in a conflict with no end in sight, that's already claimed over 3,500 US lives? Are you willing to say that you'll blindly follow Hillary the way you blindly agree with Bush? I can't wait to see that
But that's where you are exposed again GTech, it is you and the "crazy gang" that team up all the time. Damn dude I even broke down the hierarchy of the crazy gang the other week. You need to get a grip of Lexigeek though mate he only ever posts one line per post, and we both know that that is simply unacceptable.
Do I detect some hypocrisy here? Did you not just say that troops should not be in Iraq, but should be in Afghanistan? As such, you're the one pushing to leave our troops in a conflict with no end in sight, that's already killed over ? You smack of hypocrisy. I don't blindly follow anyone. However, unlike you, I would not sell our country out over her actions. Period. Patriotism doesn't have a four year shelf life. Some day you'll grow up and realize that.
I believe that many Germans felt patriotically about Hitler. Didn't make what they did or stood for moral, it just made them loyal. If Clinton is a bad president, and undermines American ideals the way Bush has, then she is deserving of your scorn. Patriotic loyalty should first be to the rule of law and ideals this nation is founded on. Long before it is tied to a particular individual or action.
Great, so I'm happy you are against the Patriot Act, which was deemed Unconstitutional. Shame on Bush for trying to pass that off on us. Btw, I like Article 1, Section 8. It's loaded with good stuff.. Ah yes, Ron Paul's letters. A Constitutional right of Congress you have frequently mocked. I'm sure it was in jest, and not because you serve King over Country. Interesting that the Commander in Chief would declare War without first receiving authorization from Congress. I guess that was kinda Unconstitutional, but in light of your King's other failures, hardly a significant blemish. Man oh man, I just love that good old fashioned Rule of Law, the basis of a democratic republic.
The Patriot Act was deemed Unconstitutional? That's news to me. Was it deemed so by alex jones? Have a linky? I'd love to see that one, because I know you are not deliberately trying to be dishonest and come back and say "one or two articles were deemed so." Tell me you are not that dishonest? Ron Paul would have our country invaded, attacked and simply sit down and write letters to terrorists asking them to please stop. He'd probably surrender America to them as well. I have no doubt you would. Not really. Congress voted to give specific authorization for action. But then a partisan hack would omit that, wouldn't he? I bet you'd like it better if you weren't so dishonest with it.
Your posts are starting to make less sense... Of course they should be in Afghanistan, finding OBL, remember, the guy that killed thousands of innocent American civilians? Hypocrite; I think not. You don't blindly follow anyone? Are you kidding me? I'm on the pro-troop side, you're the one that's trying to decrease our military readiness by letting our troops get killed daily in an unnecessary conflict... Atleast the majority of American's are on my side, and we'll pull out eventually, then the history books will show that we wanted to save American lives, and the pro-war side was only doing more damage to our country...
Dishonesty would be if you were confronted with it twice, and now claim not to know about it. Are you related to Alberto Gonzales? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=396151#post396151 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=396232#post396232 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=396352#post396352 Interestingly you dropped out of the thread regarding that subject only to return a month later on a new topic. Then when I brought it up a few weeks ago, you dismissed it again and then later admitted the "court ruled appropriately". http://forums.digitalpoint.com/show...ight=patriot+act+unconstitutional#post4033962 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/show...ight=patriot+act+unconstitutional#post4034321 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=4034677&highlight=ruled+appropriately#post4034677 On the contrary, Paul receives the most military donations, and in the words of Ronald Reagan, Ah, but Congress did not declare War. It authorized the use of Military Force to enforce UN Resolutions (which are illegal treaties anyway), which did not include nation building, spreading democracy or police actions. I have to go now. Sweet dreams GTech. Don't let the liberals get you!
When caught in flagrant hypocrisy, I suggest they might. I submit that most troops I've talked to and read blogs of, do not share your enthusiasm for defeat on their behalf. Maybe you should team up with Jesse McBeth.
Thank you! I knew you were dishonest and you just helped me prove it! This is gold! OK, so you are sourcing an old thread from yo-yo. He says the Patriot Act is unconstitutional, so that's your source? I love it! Next, you quote one of my old threads to prove the Patriot Act was unconstitutional. Why, I have no idea. But the next one, actually THIS ONE is the absolute gold! Why is it gold? Because you claimed the Patriot Act was deemed unconstitutional. Of course, we both knew that was a lie and I even noted such when I said: Yep, you were *that* dishonest. And apparently that stupid too! Ownage. Once gain, proving how dishonest you are and that there is no level you will not stoop to, to sell your country out. Even lying. Dropped out of what thread? Own up. There are thousands of threads here and I make no effort to have the last word in them. More dishonesty, like above? Thank you for these too! Once again, it demonstrates your dishonesty. You say the Patriot Act was deemed unconstitutional. It was not. Only a very few select acts within it have later been deemed such and the courts handled it appropriately, as I said. Once gain, you demonstrate a clear and consistent level of willfull dishonesty to make unsubstantiated points. I'd like to take credit for owning you on this one, but you did all the work for me. You actually went out of your way to prove your dishonesty. What mroe could I ask for? You might want to recheck who Veterans are supporting in a real poll. I never said they did declare war. Military force was authorized and implemented. Congress voted on it. Congress represents the people. Your personal opinion on "illegal treaties" to give aid and comfort are of no interest to me. Good night. Try not to dream to much about selling out your country. It's a great country.