Looking for advice for the perfect submission to DMOZ

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  1. #1
    Hi I have a few premium keyword domains that I would like to submit to DMOZ.

    I would like as much advice as possible before I submit..

    If you have succesfully submitted a submission recently please get in touch as I need your advice

    Sam:D
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #2
    Good, quality, UNIQUE content and plenty of it. Not too many ads, easy navigation, a good server, and no dead links. That'll get you past the basic guidelines.

    The rest is pretty much luck and happenstance.

    Find the most relevant category then do one of the two following steps...

    1. Submit & Forget
    2. Forget 2 Submit

    And yes, I'm seriously as both can often result in the same outcome: NO INCLUSION.

    Some categories don't get looked at for years. Others are seemingly paid, Some only seem to get a select groups OKed, the list on NOT getting in is endless here...

    I must say that some categories are rather active, and easy to get into...which ones are up in the air however, as an "active" editor is in no way an indication that they will list what you have to offer (and just because a cat has not updated in years, does not mean you wont get listed in moments).

    So again back to my two rules... If you meat the submission guidelines, then try one.
     
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    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    Keep in mind that it is very likely that your site could arguably fit into three or more categories. One may be regional. Beyond regional there may be a number of specific categories that would be good for your site. When you get to a list of categories that you site would fit in look at the "last updated" note at the bottom of the page.

    Some what to argue that there is no guarantee this will work but if you understand probability, you will understand that your chances are better with categories that show some signs of life than one that doesn't.
     
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    dogbows Active Member

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    Not necessarily true. If you submit to a category just because it appears active, it could prolong a review. Because you first have to depend on an editor to look at it in that category, and then you have to depend on another one to look at it in the category the first editor most likely will move it to. Your best bet is to always find the most appropriate category/categories regardless of activity. Plus, editors can look at the submissions without making an edit and it will not show activity. Those that are showing no activity just may not contain listable submissions.
     
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    Not necessarily false. There is necessarily one category for each site.

    Tell me what is the one category that I would submit a site about an open source PHP CMS?
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Another good one could be
    http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Site_Management/Content_Management/]

    As they seem to have exactly the same types of sites listed in them.

    *shrug*

    Unless your like german or something then you could look at:
    http://dmoz.org/World/Deutsch/Compu...waltung/Content_Management/Redaktionssysteme/]

    Then again, if you are doing the CMS for a blog, then you may want to check out:
    http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/On_the_Web/Weblogs/Tools/Publishers/]

    :rolleyes:
     
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    I'd say that one category that it could go in is:

    Computers: Programming: Languages: PHP: Scripts
    Computers: Programming: Languages: PHP: Scripts: Content Management
    Computers: Software: Internet: Site Management: Content Management
    Computers: Internet: On the Web: Weblogs: Tools: Publishers

    But other editors have listed php cms applications and services in other categories.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    I searched for PHP CMS and found your link, plus three others that all had similar content. Granted, one was specifically for blogs, but most of them were offering the same types of scripts. So technically, any of them are applicable to PHP CMS.

    I did not look at the actual search results below the category. Should I and then give a more definitive answer that there is more then one spot?
     
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    Just because you think it could go in other categories doesn't mean it actually fits there. You should always check the description of each category to see which is the best fit. Otherwise, it can be moved several times and prolong the review indefinitely.

    One thing is for sure. It will only be listed once in the Computer Branch. And finding the best category for your particular site just gives it a boost toward a review.

    Now, if a site does have another language it may be suggested there also. Or if you have a brick and mortar existence it may also be suggested in the proper Regional location.

    But you would definitely be hurting an early review, if you suggested to more than one category in any given branch, or if you suggest to an improper category in that branch because it appears more active.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Or get listed twice!

    Listed in both:
    ... Computers/Software/Internet/Site_Management/Content_Management/
    • Midgard - Midgard is a free Content Management Systems framework built on Apache, PHP and MySQL components. Midgard-based solutions are active use by hundreds of organizations worldwide.
    ... Computers/Programming/Languages/PHP/Scripts/Content_Management/
    • Midgard CMS - A content management system (CMS) for MySQL and PHP. Providing easy web page creation and management for Microsoft and Mozilla users. [Open Source, GPL].
    So in this case it seems like there are two best "only one category"s ;)

    My apologizes to who ever is losing a link
     
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    dogbows Active Member

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    Not likely. Mistakes do happen. But if Midgard finds out you just alerted editors to the mistake of a double listing of their site, you will probably go on their hit list. :D :D :D
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #14

    Just doing my part to make the ODP the best directory on the web :D ;)

    Though looking at the php/scripts I'm seeing a of site management programs for content management....which, in many ways, put either cat as the correct one for many of the programs dealing with PHP CMS.

    Removing Midgard from EITHER category as they currently stand would be an injustice to the end user. Seriously.
     
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    You did a nice job of noting that editors have different opinions hence they move it several times. :D:rolleyes:
     
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    I didn't say that at all. What I did say was "can" not "will". However, mistakes do happen. Newbies who fail to read the description of the category they are sending a site to "can" send a site to wrong category.

    The whole point is that the suggesters themselves can help to speed up review times by knowing and abiding by the guidelines. That doesn't make it concrete. But it "can" help in most cases. It certainly is better than using misinformation and "possibly" prolonging review.
     
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    I do not think you will find any perfect submission to DMOZ unless you are one of the editors.DMOZ accept good sites,you site must be good.And you have to wait for a longtime so that your site might been aproved.
     
    SEOBusiness, Dec 26, 2007 IP