It's official Google has opened up a can of whoop ass on directories

Discussion in 'Directories' started by Dave E, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. wildweb

    wildweb Peon

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    #121
    @Pheonix- my favorite phpLynx sales agent :) Spot on with that post! A lil green for ya.

    tom
     
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    poseidon Banned

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    #122
    What will happen if Google decides to award 0 pagerank to these directories in next PR update ? I just made a blog post about this. I think if google is really so concern about link purchasing than they can simple stop displaying PR publicly. This whole link business is just about PR afterall.
     
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    #123
    Is it only phpLD directories that are impacted?
     
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    #124
    I highly doubt that the script is at fault but rather the practices off the owners involved...
    not sure if its the repeated keywords used or if its the Paid links issue that finally came to light
    or what but dont belive it is about the script..

    thx
    malcolm
     
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  5. workshop

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    #125
    I like to think that they are just pulling strings, its calculated and deliberate and they are watching us dance. Whatever it should be read as another warning. The message is unmistakeable. Its time to get real and shake off all the bullsh*t thats accumulated over the last couple of years.
     
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    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #126
    I believe that you are absolutely correct. Your statement makes me examine my motives for directory submission, because I do skip over directories with no-follow links.
     
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    #127
    what is wrong with search engine friendly links? it tells search engine: ok, this is a quality site in my directory...give it some score ;)
     
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    #128
    Its the profiteering and spin doctoring that Google objects to not search engine friendy links. Ask yourself why pyramid markeing is outlawed in some countries. Its all comes down to selling "the opportunity to convince someone else that they are not in fact buying a lemon" and some people see that as being unethical.
     
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    #129
    LOL you sound very Filipino to me. :D

    Pyramid Marketing " ROFL" :D Thats the game they play in my native slums.:p
     
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  10. Business Services

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    #130
    Google designed PR with a view to displaying a pages strength gauged by the strength of links from other on theme sites. As with all these type of things manipulation by webmasters has devalued PR totally and caused the mess we are in today.

    By Google hitting paid directories hard and devaluing their links it will once again bring some realistic value back to PR

    It is common place to see a paid directory homepage with a PR of 6 yet all of the internal pages having a ranking of zero, I am sure Google are not happy with this. If you compare one of these sites with a genuine business, you will notice the latter is filled with lots of relevant unique content and all their internal pages have a good PR rating.

    I am sure Google is well aware that most directories have built up their PR by networking within the directory community. Something that is growing at an alarming rate. If you read the thread here on the pending Google update, there are literally 100’s of new directory owners desperate for the update as they expect their homepage to shoot up in the rankings, thus giving them licence to print money. I think these people have timed it wrong and are in for a big shock.

    The problem with these things is there will be some directories who have genuine products with good ranking internal pages. These sites will have built their ranking by employing sound SEO tactics and hard work, these are the ones I feel sorry for. The ones who have misused the system to simply have a directory with a high PR homepage, that has no benefit at all to the paying customers, they deserve no sympathy. They provide no service of value and the sooner Google sort them out the better.
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #131
    but still, there is no need to de-rank them.
     
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    #132
    Not accurate at all. Here's the genesis of PageRank.

    You really need to take a look at that document before you make too many more statements about how Google works or how you think Google works.
     
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    #133
    As Google is a secret agency all meantion of them in forums is based on personal opinion, I have made mine.
     
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    #134
    Hi, I'm aware that your entitled to your opinion, but I have to ask this. What is the realistic value of PR?
     
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    #135
    My own realistic value of PR would be .... a SME with a good understanding of SEO, good unique content, good quality links, a PR OF 4 would be great.

    I guess the trouble is with the manipulation, mainly by directory homepages it has slightly devalued other sites. My friend has a long standing internet business, ranking in the top 3 for most of his keywords, makes 500k per year yet his PR is 3.

    Just my own opinion.
     
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    #136
    Totally agree :)
    I myself have PR 4 sites getting 10 k uniques daily on a very competitive niche.
     
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    #137
    willing to share the website with us? :)
     
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    #138
    strategyconsultinglimited.co.uk
     
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    #139
    That would be a different problem and most likely a dropped domain scamming folks.

    I agree that is possible and traffic is way more important than PR alone, especially targetted traffic.

    A PR does not really help that much is getting submissions and it certainly does not make a directory owner instantly rich by any stretch of the imagination, that is purely a myth. A PR7 or PR8 might bring you in some cash but most of these 100's of webmasters are waiting for a PR3 or PR4 not more.


    Hahaha, I love this rep comment "You write a lot of garbage, but out of sympathy here is some green" since it gave me all of one rep point I think it is the commentor that needs the green, PM me who you are and I will help you out :)
     
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    #140
    Looks like G has ruffled a few feathers, maybe that's their gameplan:)

    It wasn't long ago that Proxies were the witch's of the net. What happened there.

    Take a step back and look at what's happening. There is no point second guessing.
     
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