"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby."

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ly2, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. #1
    "A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister."

    http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
     
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  2. skibladner

    skibladner Peon

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    #2
    Despite the fact that Khomeini was a heretic and i strongly hate him I seriously doubt he wrote that. That Homa woman is a rabid anti-religion Atheist, I wouldn't put it past her to make up stuff.
     
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  3. linkmistress

    linkmistress Peon

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    #3
    Do you actually troll these sites looking for this rubbish?
    Or to just stir things up a bit?
     
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  4. Mr. Websites

    Mr. Websites Active Member

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    You honestly have too much time on your hands. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Hamba Wena

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    He probably does it for the adsense. Read the Talmud and the Bible and you will be shocked what you find there.
     
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  6. Gnet

    Gnet Peon

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    #6

    I gotta give it to ya dude
    You find the most fucked up stuff online
    Now i need an asprin
    jeeez..
     
    Gnet, Sep 2, 2007 IP
  7. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    There's proof that this writing exists, the Muslims try to hide now sooo desperately.
     
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    #8
    If you have find interesting things in P & R , these are things which will come up. I think with the experience of more than 3000 post , you can easily avoid asprin ; don't open these threads !
     
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  9. northpointaiki

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    God. I had no idea Khomeini got this foul.

    Skibladner, that's interesting you would leap to ascribing it all to a "rapid anti-religion Atheist," without bothering to find out. Dr. Darabi sources the text, so if she were merely writing propaganda, wouldn't that be a rather stupid thing to do? Not only does a cursory web search make it appear the text is readily available, Khomeini's evil regarding children is apparently cross-referenced in several other sources as well:

    1 - Tahrirolvasyleh, sourced by Dr. Darabi;
    2. - http://www.al-shia.com/html/ara/books/tahrir/tahrir25.htm#a4 (in arabic)
    3. - Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini: Political, Philosophical, Social, & Religious Bantam Books:1985. ISBN-10: 0553140329

    Refer to the wikipedia article, "Khomeini's View," for more delightful philosophy in this regard; I won't post it here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_children

    I also came across this, just now, on Amazon. Khomeini's positive view of child rape is referenced here as well. The book (along with the author's work, generally) is an American muslim's journey to his own faith, and the difficulties therein. He appears to delve into much of what we've seen on this forum over the last several days, the inability or unwillingness by some to address questions put to Islam, and how this is only an impediment to addressing "the malaise of [American born] Muslims." I would imagine such reluctance to deal openly with important questions enervates many faithful Muslims worldwide.

    http://www.amazon.com/Losing-My-Religion-Call-Help/dp/1590080270/ref=sr_1_1/002-9762371-0690423?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1188812889&sr=8-1

    Women; children. These are serious questions. Given that children make up about 36% of our world population, and women, 50% (http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbagg), the quality of their lives seem pretty important, do they not? Why is it so difficult to deal with it squarely?
     
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  10. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    Are you surprised? Yes he/she does! ;)
     
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  11. CountryBoy

    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    ly2, as much as I'm not a fan of Islam I really don't think there's any need to keep running that religion even further into the ground. You can not say anything more that will change our views of it.

     
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  12. northpointaiki

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    ly2 and I absolutely part ways in his estimation of Muslims generally. But, he's posting facts, not his creations. These facts are not comfortable, and they won't go away by avoidance.
     
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  13. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    More importantly he may be just doing his job (Spreading anti-islam sentiments). Do you agree with me that he may be paid for this job?
     
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  14. northpointaiki

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    No, I do not at all, but that's irrelevant, to me, whether he is or isn't getting paid, or what his motivation is. Anymore than someone raising a legitimate question about my own culture, my country's policies, etc.: so long as it's a good question, why they asked doesn't matter a whit. And I hope I would have the moral courage to address the question, and integrity to look at the issue objectively - even if what I find doesn't square with my previous thoughts on the subject.

    Bottom line, he's posting facts. They raise questions. I know I myself have asked several questions, here and on other threads, but all that's taken place is that those questions have been absolutely avoided.

    I ask in sincerity, as I do seek to understand folks not of my own culture or ethos. I flatly do not consider it anti-Islam to ask questions that are raised about it; in fact, I'd go so far as to say it is anti-Islam to avoid, attempt to divert, or outright lie in response.
     
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  15. Lexiseek

    Lexiseek Banned

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    I have learned from reliable sources that posters on almost every political and religious subject do indeed get paid for work on forums. It surprised me a bit, to be honest.

    It's possible some of them are posting here. Many of the people who post here frequently seem to have an agenda, and rarely change their minds on any subject.
     
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  16. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    Exactly my point! If you see the post count and where those posts belong to, you won't be surprised.
     
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  17. northpointaiki

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    Facts, gentlemen, facts.

    Why do you avoid the facts? Why dive for cover under the personality of the original poster, or his motives? WHO CARES? At issue is a question of Khomeini and his views on sex with children. Since the man founded the Islamic Republic of Iran, is it not something worthy of discussion?
     
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  18. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    actually, both. How am I doing?


    Actually I don't. If you notice, my posts are all made sometime after 5PM or on the weekends. I'm not usually online till after 5PM or so.
     
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  19. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    Where can I signup to get paid for what I do? I'm doing it for free, it would be a cherry on top to actually get paid for it :D
     
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  20. Gnet

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    Terrifically Delicious. :3
     
    Gnet, Sep 3, 2007 IP