Google's 2007-Q3/Q4 PageRank (PR) Update

How do you know? Google Directory wasn't updated for 6 month. Now they updated it and probably use the current PR values. You cannot even see the real PR value in the Google Directory because it uses a different scale than the toolbar.

 

Nonsense!!! read my http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=452663 thread and check it out yourself

 

Guys go on and work hard on building inbound links.

You are lucky you have been given time to get high PR.

 

It does not become true just because you keep repeating your statement. How do you know the little bar in the Google Directory shows a PR5? Probably it's actually 4.92 and the toolbar shows a 4 for it, the Google Directory shows 4.92 which scales to the middle of the PR bar?

I don't know - you don't know.

 

It's always such an approximation and nothing else. what if you knew that your site is 6.79? Just a more accurate meter - would be nice though

 

Yes, this would be nice.

The point is that we currently do not know if the PR display in the Google Directory shows a new PR (calculated in June or later) or and older one. And even if we know that we cannot see the toolbar PR in the Google Directory at all.

 

Following this path of logic, it would mean that Google just updated directory with outdated data. How nice of this great search engine!

 

This is what they do when they export the PR to the toolbar - they export data which is outdated for about one month.

 

I wonder if people reading this thread understand the difference between a PR update and a PR export to the toolbar? Of course, the update has already taken place -- what hasn't happened is the export of the latest update to the toolbar. We're all waiting on the latter.

 

you are spot on. most ppl dont understand that.

 

No changes on my internet marketing blog for 119 days now. Maybe Google is going to 3 times per year update?

 

Then following your statement will online PR checkers such as Digpagerank and many others show now the new and updated PR information or the old? Thank you very much if you can answer this to me.

 

No they won't because they use the (old/out of date) Toolbar PR data not the real PR value that is updated daily.

Cheers,

Venetsian

 

You think that pr is updated daily? Just think for a moment... 17 billion pages and google crawling them every day (all of them) and calculating pr - an interesting thing. How come pr toolbar export takes sometimes several days then? It's nonsense. Try to think of the resources Google would have to have. They update it maybe once a week or two but not every day, man
You're brainwashed by Matt Cutts

 

@Venetsian, thank you very much for clarifying - this is important to know such information. Do you happen to know any good PR script or online service to get the PR value in the real time?

@freaky andy, mate yes PR is a real-time measurement and no need so much resources for doing this calculations especially for Google. They can do it.

 

Is this a coo coo land or what? Link building of every website takes place on almost daily basis. Take a look at the number of pages Googlebot crawles at your site every day. All of them? I don't think so. This means that some of the pages are not crawled but they may contain links to some sites, and their pr should be thereby affected. Daily pr update is a nonsense considering the fact that you have to transfer the new data to different data centers. The data may be conflicting too. It's a long story ...

 

I'm not brainwashed and I'll give you one simple reason:

when the googlebot crawls your website, it's automatically digesting the page based on hundreds little things and its calculating its pr and index stats. There is no page in Google's index without PR so if you see new page in the index it must have some pr. This calculation is done as continuous process each time the spider locates new links and references.

The thing about PR Export to the Toolbar is because Google don't want webmasters to know it since PR is mainly used for Link Exchanges/Sales and etc. They don't want that!

Also I'd like to add that Matt Cutts called up Wordrpess and tolled them to clean up their Sponsored Links shit and that's why thy don't accept more themes now, until Google fixes their new algorithm which will be effective pretty shortly. I assume that the new algo won't count any suspicious links and the wordpress sponsored links will be all gone. I'm not 100% sure but atleast 90%.

What do you think about that?

Cheers,

Venetsian.

 

But it still doesn't mean on daily basis. It means that pr is updated when Googlerbot crawls a page and that's a different issue. This usually takes place once a week and sometimes longer. Of course, more important pages are crawled more often.
I don't understand -Google doesn't want the webmasters to know what the pagerank of their pages is that's why export takes several days? If they really didn't want you to know they would never display it in the first place. I think, it takes that long becasue it's a time consuming process and it takes up a lot of their resources.
Their pagerank is still the same - so where is a punishment?

 

No, they don't. They get the same export as everyone else. What they can do is to tell you that an export to the toolbar is about to happen by presenting fluctuating numbers until the export is finalized.

 

I think this is new. Before they didn't care about PR as that was their ranking BRAND, but now I think they saw that PR is abused by webmasters for link sales and ranking manipulation purposes and has no value to regular website users and therefore it became some sort of evil thing that does not help anyone and corrupts their quality.

Now they will still continue to use pr but I don't know if they will ever share it with us. I hope I'm wrong because I like the PR button

Cheers,

Venetsian.