"We don't need a commission to find out how it happened. The truth is in the timeline." President Carter, Democrat. 1979 - Allowed Shah of Iran to be plundered and overrun by a mob of Islamic fanatics. A few months later, they stormed the U.S. embassy in Iran and took American staff hostage. He retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. Whoopie. He eventually ordered a "disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert." President Reagan, Republican The day of his inauguration, hostages were released. 1982 - U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslim extremists. Reagan sent Marines to Beirut. 1983 - U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut blown up by extremists. Reagan said the United States "would not surrender." Democrats in congress threw a "hissy fit" and drafted a res. that troops be withdrawn. Reagan gave in to Democratic demands and pulled troops, bombing Syrian areas on his way out. Democrats complained about that, too. 1985 - An Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was captured and a 69-year old American was shot and tossed overboard by Muslim extremists. Reagan ordered a mission to capture the hijackers after the "allies" promise them safe passage. They captured the hijackers and turned them over to the Italians who gave them to Iraq. April 5, 1986 - A West Berlin dance club (called a discotheque) that many U.. servicemen attended was bombed by ... guess... Muslim Extremists from the Libyan Embassy in East Berlin, killing an American. Ten days later, Reagan bombed Libya, despite our dear ally France refusing to let us their airspace. Americans bombed the residence of the terrorist, killing his daughter, and dropped a bomb on the French embassy "by mistake." (They had to launch their attack from Britian... by the time fatigued pilots got to Tripoli, oops! Butterfingers!) He continued to battle heinous regimes in Iran and Iraq as he won a final victory over Soviet totalitarianism. President Bush Sr, Moderate Republican December 1988 - Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed over Scotland by Muslim extremists. Bush claimed he would continue Reagan's policy of retaliating against Terrorism, but did not. 1990 - Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Early 1991 - Bush went to war with Iraq the way liberals like - with approval from the UN and "allies". Democrats demanded our troops stop at Baghdad, but then after 9/11, absurdly complained that Bush didn't "finish off the job" with Saddam. President Bill Clinton, Democrat. February 1993 - WTC bombed by Muslim fanatics killing 5 and injuring hundreds. Clinton did nothing. October 1993 - Eighteen American troops killed in a firefight in Somalia. The corpse of one American was dragged through streets while extremists were celebrating. Clinton responded by ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News, "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat." November 1995 - Five Americans killed and thirty wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists. Clinton did nothing. June 1996 - U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia blown up by muslim extremists. Clinton did nothing. Months later - Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city Erbil. Clinton lobbed some bombs into Iraq, hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces. November 1997 - Iraq refused to allow UN weapons inspectors to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a US spy plane. Osama bin Laden declares war on the United States on behalf of Al Qaeda. Clinton did nothing. February 1998 - Clinton threatens to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the UN said no. August 7 1998 - U.S. Embassies in Kenia and Tanzania were bombed by muslim extremists. Clinton did nothing. August 20 - Monica Lewinsky appears, second time, for testifying before grand jury. Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory. December 16 - House of Reps. wanted to impeach clinton the next day. Clinton retaliated by ordering major airstrikes against Iraq, described by the NYT as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991." The only time Clinton went to war with anyone in the vicinity of muslim fanatics was in 1999 - when he attacked Serbians who were fighting Muslim fanatics. October 2000 - Our warship the USS Cole was attacked by extremists. Clinton did nothing. President George W. Bush - Republican Came into office by telling his security advisor he was "done swatting flies" - he wanted to eliminate Al Qaeda. Since 9/11/01, Bush has... - Won wars in Afghanistan and Iraq - Captured and executed Saddam Hussein - Probably killed and certainly immobilized Osama bin Laden - Destroyed Al Qaeda's bases - Begun to create the only functioning democracy in the middle east except Israel. Democrats/liberals oppose it all.
The 2 I have highlighted in bold are complete utter lies chulium, especial about winning the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. I am recommending this for dumbest post of the month.
They never said our wars were over, just that some had been won. GAGS - your reply is worthless to me. You ignored the entire rest of my OP and make no assertion to support your statement that they are "utter lies" - you just leave it at that as if we're supposed to say "Oh yeah, duh, how silly of me. You're right." But, on that note, I'm glad you don't think the rest of my post is lies I'm glad you are finally coming to see the light! xD
The way you have spun it saying "Won wars in Afghanistan and Iraq" is wrong chulium, maybe you are referring to a completely different Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no doubt at all that Iraq and Afghanistan have been ruined by fools like Dubya Bush and his corrupt cronies. Why not ask the family's of troops being killed every day about these so-called wars won in Iraq and Afghanistan. Looking at the rest of the post it is clear that you are attempting to smear that corrupt scumbag Bill Clinton and making out that G.W.Bush is some kind of angelic hero.
Are you including Rumsfelds non existent caves chulium? Rummy's Fantasy Caves The Real Caves (look at 3mins 45seconds in, Rummy's fantasy that he sold to the Sheeple is exposed for the massive lie that it was.)
This is factually incorrect. Unlike Bush, Clinton successfully captured and tried all of the bombers. I take it you are unaware that the Iraqi parliament is a joke? They fistfight in session, the leader of Iraq is a man who refuses to shake the hand of a woman and has ties to Iranian militant groups. You call that a functional democracy? There are Republicans and conservatives who oppose it as well.
Saddam used to have an army. It was allegedly the third most powerful in the world. The war with Saddam's army was clearly won.
Lol bush supporter above? #1 Iraq was not won, there are more troops dying everyday and the country is still a living hell. #2 When extremist attacked US property/army in those related country during Clinton's. eg: Saudi Arabia, who do you want to retaliate? Bomb Saudi for housing those extremist? #3 Al Qaeda is still operating pretty well. #4 Democracy was not working in middle east, if it is people dont bomb everyone else in the middle of the market. #5 Iraq's goal remains as Oil. #6 Everyone hates America more than ever before. You get more people bombing us and what? We just gonna keep killing one another, thats simply mind of a kid.
Well since you all are scholars, experts, and professionals on the subject, I guess I am wrong and you all are right simply because you posted them I cite my source. It's Ann Coulter.
Uh oh. Then you should look for better sources than that! She has been wrong plenty of times before. I saw her once being interviewed by Canadian television and she told the reporter that Canada sent troops to Vietnam. The reporter told her that she was wrong and she insisted that she was right. In fact Canada never got involved in the Vietnam War ever. Ann doesn't know when to admit when she is wrong
I hate the way she spews absurd opinions, then presents them as facts... Here's an example where she got busted doing it on TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIsvMSEYiK4&mode=related&search= What I find funny is that most republican's don't understand they're getting used by ann... She yaks about extreme-right-wing propaganda, then makes comments like the "john edwards is a faggot" statement, just to sell more of her books to the conservatives... PS: You know Ann Coulter called a group of 9/11 widows "Harpies" and "witches" for speaking up against the administration, then had the audacity to declare them "anti-American"?
Heh! Ann Coulter smacks liberals so hard, they don't know what hit them. What's funny about the John Edwards' comment was, they actually used it to portray themselves as victims and to raise money for the campaign. Talk about an evil twist of moral standards. Clearly she had been reading some posts on DP when she once noted:
Until someone catches her in a lie I'm just glad that she has absolutely no power, and the only people that listen to her are extreme right-wing lemmings that also no authority (especially once 2009 rolls around)... So, let me get this straight. She called him a faggot and profited from it. That's ok? But when he posted it on his website and got campaign contributions from it, that's bad? He turned lemons into lemonade. She puts forth opinions, stated as facts, and for some reason, the right wing it's it up faster then bush's lastest reason for the iraq war... As far as this conflict is concerned, it's the pro-war advocates that our hurting our national security... 7 reasons why the iraq war is hurting our national security
Here's another clip a friend brought to my attention: http://www.ifilm.com/video/2665904 Fast forward to 1:45 where she pulls the common, ignorant, right-wing defense of calling someone a liar when they're not doing so good in a debate (sound like someone we know?)... I'm surprised she also didn't shamelessly say the other guy is anti-American... haha
There's a difference between not knowing and a lie. Lying, is like when conspiracy nuts make blatant dishonest assertions here, and you give them a pass because they are anti-war. That's what lying is Can you squeeze a little lemon on that hypocrisy? Like the 9/11 nuts that you give a pass to? Your opinion that her statements are opinions are nothing more than an opinion. Can I get some lime on this hypocrisy?
Just doing a little follow-up to TK's asserted lie above: http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Ann_Coulter Scrambled eggs, anyone?
The ICCS you mentioned was a peace-keeping group, not a combat unit... And as for Canadians fighting in vietnam, come on, we all know they didn't... They gave a set list of prerequisites before they would participate in the war, those prerequisites were never met, and canada never sent combat units in...
Yeah, but that's not totally correct either. Canada did not send troops to fight alongside the Americans (Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends...) Canada went to Vietnam in a peace keeping role as part of the ICCS. http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/cmdp/mainmenu/group06/icmic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War#Assistance_to_the_Americans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Commission_of_Control_and_Supervision So yeah, Coulters assertion that Canada was once this military sidekick of the US, participating in the Vietnam war is completely incorrect. Green eggs and ham.