So there's no PR any more - alternatives?

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  1. ErectADirectory

    ErectADirectory Guest

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    #121
    "Might" might be an understatement. I think any engine that doesn't have the resources to develop something similar (anyone except MSN, Y! & G) would be beating down the doors to be a beta tester.

    Y, the big 3 account for most of the searches done daily. 2 of them could potentially use (or buyout) this system once it's proven effective.
     
    ErectADirectory, Aug 22, 2007 IP
  2. Sutocu

    Sutocu Active Member

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    #122
    Come up with something that sounds web 2.0. Maybe pHr8 (page-rate)

    I'm in, if there's anything I can help with.
     
    Sutocu, Aug 22, 2007 IP
  3. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #123
    You will need to have a tool bar as well.
     
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  4. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #124

    The name will be openpv (for open pagevalue) for now.

    I registered a domain for the project and we are set up a phpBB for discussions.
     
    katulago, Aug 23, 2007 IP
  5. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #125
    We set up a website at openpv.org (open page value).

    There's a forum and some basic explanations for now.

    If anybody is interested in joining the disucssion or the team just sign up to the forum.

    regards
     
    katulago, Aug 24, 2007 IP
  6. bomberman

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    #126
    Should google provide an alternative for PR?
     
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  7. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #127
    Sure, but they will not do this - why should they make their ranking factors available to the public?
     
    katulago, Aug 24, 2007 IP
  8. Megadeals

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    #128
    Ditto tesla. maybe now everyone else will stop. :D
     
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  9. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #129
    Traffic is not a good factor - currently there's no way to find out traffic for a single PAGE - only estimations for a SITE.
     
    katulago, Aug 25, 2007 IP
  10. Sean-Pollock

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    #130
    I really hate this type of threads, for such a respected forum, it can confuse people fairly new to seo... This thread should be removed or atleast change the title and first post....
     
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  11. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #131
    It is an alternative to create your own PR algo and servers. Though it is kind of excessive in comparison to the benefits.
     
    bogart, Aug 25, 2007 IP
  12. dynamike

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    #132
    Good! Maybe people will start buying links for traffic instead. PR is meaningless in the CPM model anyway. The real ad buyers are looking at traffic. Gasp! I know. Whodathunk your site would be measured by the real number of people that visit it?
     
    dynamike, Aug 25, 2007 IP
  13. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #133
    Traffic is the key - TRUE.

    But the easiest and chepeast way to get traffic is having good positions in SERPs. Good links are the key for good SERP positions so finally PR does matter because it gives kind of trust to my site which helps me climbing up to page 1.
     
    katulago, Aug 26, 2007 IP
  14. workshop

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    #134
    And the moons a balloon :) The one argument does not necessarily follow the other. Links are good for serp's and PR is good for directory masters with a tail to spin.
     
    workshop, Aug 26, 2007 IP
  15. katulago

    katulago Peon

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    #135
    Well, if you have the choice: get a PR1 link or get a PR7 link - which one do you prefer?
     
    katulago, Aug 26, 2007 IP
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    abstroose Notable Member

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    #136
    Can somebody please clarify: Are Google removing PageRank or not? I really can't be bothered to browse through 7 pages of posts to find a simple yes or no answer.
     
    abstroose, Aug 26, 2007 IP
  17. Astroman

    Astroman Well-Known Member

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    #137
    Utter nonsense.

    1) No it wont kill anything, the brainless link marketers will just use some other PR equivalent - if Google dropped it Yahoo or MSN would start using it instantly, but they wont drop it because they know that. And anyway, some non-webmasters also use the PR tool, it could well be a reason for a lot of users to use Google instead of Yahoo etc so I doubt google would be silly enough to dump it.

    Most of the traffic does come from Google now, which is why they wont monkey around with how it works because they would like to keep it that way.
     
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  18. workshop

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    #138
    Right now I would go for the PR1 link. There is no difference to the link strength as far as the serp's are concerned and I would be concerned about the PR7 site making it though to the next update. Who buys PR7 these days? :eek:

    Is Google going to pull the plug on PR? They already have but I doubt we will see the demise of the little bar, replaced maybe but its never going to be the same again.
     
    workshop, Aug 26, 2007 IP
  19. mrcrowley

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    #139
    NO! I can't believe this thread has gone this far and is still going strong lol
     
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  20. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    bogart, Aug 26, 2007 IP