I admit, I do "occasionally" gain pleasure from death [vid]

The link below is a 2004 articles which came from the Boston Globe. It states that Al Qaeda camps had been found in the Saudi Arabian desert. There is no way Al Qaeda could have been operating there without the House of Saud knowing about it.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/ar...un_camps_found_in_saudi_arabia_official_says/

Bush claimed after 911 that he would "go after any state that harbors terrorists" and the revelation in this article should have been enough for him to send troops into Saudi Arabia. However, since our government is allies with the Saudis(because they play by our rules) the U.S. has overlooked this.

The real reason why we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan is because they don't play by our rules. The same with Iran. The U.S. wants to take over the entire Middle East, and any country that doesn't submit voluntarily will be invaded or bombed.

Iraq was invaded because it is the heart of the Middle East. By setting up a base there, the U.S. can then take over the surrounding countries with more ease. Zman should know this, he enjoys playing RTS games, and he beat me a chess before. It is a basic military strategy.

Even though you may not feel sorry for the man, I think it is wrong to glorify the death of someone, and I'm horrified by this video. It shows that a culture of hate is being cultivated in the U.S. Peace IS patriotic. A lot of Americans who support the war claim that we have to "fight them over there before they come here." First off, if we stayed out of Middle Eastern affairs to begin with, we wouldn't be in this mess.

George Washington had the right idea. STAY OUT of other countries affairs. Let them live their lives and do whatever they want. If we just did that, the 911 attacks wouldn't have occured. If you believe the official story of 911(I don't) you should know that it was done out of desperation. The suicide bombings in the Middle East are desperation attacks. If we mind our own business, everything would be ok.

The mujahideen would never have gained power in the first place if the CIA didn't arm them during the 1980s. To understand the conflict in the Middle East, you must know its history. The problem with a lot of people in this forum is that they don't know their history. You can tell that they haven't even read basic information about the Middle East. It is this type of ignorance which allows the U.S. government to cultivate a culture of fear and hate among Americans.

But I know history, and I know that the U.S. government will take away our freedoms under the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. I'm trying to wake up more people so that doesn't happen.

 

He had the right idea in 1789. Ideas tend to get updated in 220+ years.

 

Actually, this is a very good question, and not dismissed so easily. Let's remember the fights in the streets, 1914, again in 1939-on, over intervention v. isolation. The latter strain has a very strong legacy, begun with at least one pole among the Founders, and continued through today.

 

Technology has made globalization a necessary fact of existence. Washington couldn't have even conceived of the concept in 1789. The communications people possess now make the world a much smaller place.

I think meddling is done by all of the world's governments, and it's not just limited to the U.S. or democracies. Countries are competing for increasingly limited resources.

 

I'd suggest some interesting reading of the work done quite a while ago, now, by Karl Deutsch, on symbolic communication. In a nutshell, technology has afforded us the ability to bounce off each other at greater pace, like increasing the kinetic energy between atoms. Whether we aggregate, or isolate, has nothing to do with the speed and intensity with which this process takes place. In fact, in many instances, technology has only made more salient the desire, and need, to retreat into a more isolated polity.

Historically, as an example, "globalization" was the watchword of the '60's in predicting the end of nationalism and the nation state. It didn't pan out. If anything, nationalism is on the rise.

 

Thanks, Northpoint.

BTW, both of those videos are gone. "TOS violations according to YouTube."

 

Minding your own business is a timeless strategy. It doesn't matter what year it is, or how long it has been around. Hey, why don't we just get rid of the Constitution, banish free speech, and take away our right to carry guns. After all, the Constitution is over 200 years old!

Your logic is flawed. If the ideas of George Washington are "dated" then that means the Constitution is "dated." But hell, don't worry, the American government agrees with you Lexiseek! They violate the Constitution all the time! They don't follow their own laws, and you will probably be happy when all your freedoms are gone, but since the Constitution is an old document, it needs to be replaced with something "new." I know, how about a UN Charter!

Here is an analogy. Lets say one day lexiseek you see a woman being beaten by her husband. You try to be the hero and physically intervene, and then the husband stabs you to death. Later it is revealed that the woman was cheating on him, and this is why he was hitting her. Even though he was wrong, you would be dead, all because you didn't mind your business...

People get killed every day because they don't mind their business. Wars wouldn't happen, if countries just minded their own business. I've seen videos of women in Afghanistan being abused and executed, but you know what, that is their country. If the Afghan people get tired of harsh rule, they can revolt. They don't need outside assistance.........

You get the analogy above? If you stay out of other peoples business, or other country's business, people tend to leave you alone most of the time.

Nationalism is on the rise because no one wants to be part of a global government. Most Europeans hate the EU, because they want to maintain their own national identity. You see, guys like Lexiseek no nothing about American history. They put the American flag on their Avatar, but then claim that George Washington, one of the men who founded the country, had ideas which are "dated."

Lexiseek, you don't even know what that flag stands for. It stands for freedom and liberty, which is symbolized in the Constitution. If you actually knew anything about the founding fathers(I can tell you don't) then you would know that they believed in NON-INTERVENTIONISM, not isolationism or interventionism. They believed in trading and doing business with other countries, but not meddling in their political affairs.

Ron Paul understands this, and he has read many American history books. Please go read before coming into this forum to debate or make comments. You'll probably vote for Mitt Romney, who is so liberal that he shouldn't be running for president as a Republican, or maybe you'll vote for Hillary, who is a closet Republican. Or maybe you will vote for Barack Obama, who wants to bomb Pakistan! LOL

 

Well, I also see that neither Gtech, zman, lorien, or anyone else bothered to comment on the four links to Wiki I placed in previous posts on this thread. I guess that sums up the whole debate about government corruption. I guess that makes me the winner!

I have one question for you Lexiseek. Instead of just commenting and saying that George Washington's ideas are old, why don't you elaborate and explain why?