SERPs wipe the floor with Pagerank

The unanswered question is whether your exact same blog would rank higher in the SERPs with, say, a PR6 rather than a PR0.

 

Internal PR is important and what influences ranking.

We don't have access to internal page rank, nor do we know 100% how it is computed.

Comparing Tool Bar Page Rank and serps are like comparing apples and oranges.

 

page rank is a result of having strong backlinks.

because of this, pr is nothink. it's only calculated for fun but backlinks will help you to get better ranking

 

Google likes us to believe many things. However, they appear to be different for everyone.

Google has a mind of its own. If they remove pagerank then this just might be a blessing in disguise for everyone!

 

I'll take SERPs over PR every time. It's what gets noticed the most.

Col

 

May not be the best of articles but this page (got it in email) shows a example of a PR0 page beating a PR4 page on Google's SERPs - http://www.jonathanleger.com/how-links-power-search-results/

 

If anyone has a firm proof that PR of the site helps to rank bater in Google SERPs, please show it here.

High PR (7 and above) backlinks help to SERPs, but not sure if also the PR of the site itself.

 

Actually Back-links determine Page rank that has have an affect on the SERPS.

 

Perhaps but is'nt that as a result of quality backlinks rather than the PR?

More keyword rich anchor text in backlinks = higher SERPs
More backlinks = higher PR
Higher PR and no keyword rich anchor text in backlinks = no SERPs

In other words, its the keyword rich backlinks that give better SERPs than just the matter of the PR.

Just my opinion though...

 

Anyone with normal logic thinks like this

Only that this is not necessary true. One can get PR6 from PR0 in three months with bad quality site. Not sure for PR7 though...Backlinks from PR7 site - may be low quality and non-related - helps A LOT in SERPs. It doesn't sounds fair but I saw this a week ago how someone made it.

 

Pr is only good to sell people with, it means nothing to the search engines.

 

I totally agree with it ....

get as many quality backlinks u can get pointing towards your website .... and i think if ur site is having quality backlinks then ur site will get good PR too for sure...

and i have 2 websites of same theme and targeting same keywords ... one is having PR 3 and the other having PR 4 ... but the main point is that the site with PR 3 is ranking high by 2 or 3 positions up for many competitive keywords than the site having PR 4.

so it does not matter with the PR for keywords ranking if ur site with low PR provides quality to the visitors for the keyword.


Regards
Puneet M

 

Yes, but you're changing the point. You're looking at the PR of the page where the backlink comes from. I'm talking about the PR of the site in SERPs. That seems to be the debate ... whether whether a site with a better PR has a better SERPs, and whether it is the PR of that site that gives it the better SERP.

 

Probably true, but i can back mine up:

http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/1...ss-66-of-people-dont-know-what-rss-is-survey/



The point I was making, was that PR is only important to webmasters and only webmasters. Your readership wont care less.

Pierce

 

I know what is original question. 3 things are mixed here though:

- PR of the site. As I said here, I have no proof that it affect SERPs and at this point I don't believe it. You can find PR2 site before PR7 site in Google SERPs. (The only appropriate time ton check this is short after PR update).
- PR of the backlink I've seen four PR7 backlinks helped someone to move his site from #350 to #6 in two days for keyword with 2,000,000 results.
-quality of the backlink What is quality for Google is actualy hidden in their algorhytm. It's a great mistake to assume that what a visitor (even proffesional) assumes as quality is the same as Google assumes. I suspect that when Google see a PR7 backlink it does not check it further for relevancy, # of pages, keywords etc.

 

My point exactly so it depends who your website is then catering for - webmasters or the public.

 

I know, I was being facetious.

PR is important only as one aspect of the algorithm that determines your SERPs. Webmasters who focus only on PR won't be webmasters for long, as their sites won't have much traffic.

BTW, I know several people (non-webmasters) who use the toolbar Pagerank when deciding whether to trust a website. The number isn't huge, but those people are out there, and as long as Google maintains the toolbar PR, that number will only grow.

 

PR is one of the ranking factors. I would agree that PR is a small part of what gets you ranked, but you can increase your rankings by increasing PR, even if by a small amount. Every little bit helps right?

I would go for both, because one helps you with the other.

 

Agreed. It is the BACKLINKS, NOT the backlinks indicator(PageRank) that is most important.

Backlinks(not PR) is also what is used in calculating SERP results. PR is just a nice 0-10 indicator that helps you normalize the plethora of backlink volume possibilities. Get it?

 

But if you need to know how hot it is or cold you look at the thermometer.

After all a statement like 'gosh its hot' is not as informative as 'gosh its 30C, that's hot!' You both know its hot but without the thermometer you don't know just how hot it is.