SERPs wipe the floor with Pagerank

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by vicdigi, Aug 22, 2007.

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    SERPs wipe the floor with Pagerank

    Many director owners will probably disagree with me, however...

    With high Google SERPs you get free traffic. Traffic that is relevant to your website from everyday users who are searching for your products.

    Who cares about PR apart from webmasters? The public mostly know nothing about this.

    If you are selling products then PR on your website means absolutely nothing.

    Even if you have a directory and are ranking high for many keywords and keep appearing on the first and second page of results then regardless of your PR there is every likelyhood many a webmaster will submit to your site with or without Pagerank.

    Our Google preference = High SERPs.
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    vicdigi, Aug 22, 2007 IP
  2. pets4homes

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    #2
    Yes I agree, good SERPS beats good PR, but it is nice to have both. If you have a good site with a low PR but one of your competitors has a lot higher PR, most people will respect the high PR site more and are more likely to want to exchange links with the other.
     
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  3. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    which is what google is trying to crack down on?

    So why do you need PR, if the only value it brings is to buy liability that may or may not get you banned from the SERPS?

    Pierce
     
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  4. FastWeb

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    #4
    I couldn't agree more! *

    * (but, PR is part of the formula to calculate SERPs, so it matters somewhat. Too many people forget, though, that it is only part of the formula)

    :)
     
    FastWeb, Aug 22, 2007 IP
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    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    #5
    It's not like they are two independent breathing creatures.

    Page rank is a factor that affects the SERPS, the reciprocal effect does not happen, it's not the case where you choose one over the other.
     
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  6. The Webmaster

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    Uhhu, thats a misconception among Webmasters.

    Many people using google toolbar (And trust me, not only webmaster use toolbar) know about PR, and you may find it amazing, they take it seriously..

    People apart from Webmasters do not know what exactly PR is, but they take it as Google's rating for given page. Higher PR you have, more trustworthy page they think..

    So don think your visitors do not know about PR.
     
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    #7
    No PR = Low SERP. I dont remember seeing any PR0 site being rank in the for a keyword. Have you seen one?
     
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  8. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    Plenty....

    Hardly is there any keyword where you cant find a low PR page outranking higher PR pages in top 20-30 results..
     
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  9. vicdigi

    vicdigi Banned

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    #9


    Show me the statistics......

    Last time I downloaded the Google toolbar there was two. One with the PR and one without. Correct me if I am wrong!
     
    vicdigi, Aug 22, 2007 IP
  10. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    #10
    did you know over 70% of bloggers dont know what "RSS" is?

    The average person also doesnt know what a browser is, even if they have just read the last line online :)

    Pierce
     
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  11. vicdigi

    vicdigi Banned

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    #11
    OK, thanks for the info but what does this have to do with this discussion?

    Anyhow, here is one for you titled Google Poetic Madness.
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    vicdigi, Aug 22, 2007 IP
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    #12
    Blah blah blah... that wasn't the nicest introduction but you're on the wrong track here. Pr matters to all webmasters. It's good to have a good pr because it will help you promote your site. Traffic is something different. Having a high pr it becomes much easier to show up high in the serps and that spells traffic. The two are somehow connected but there are a number of other factors such as the size of your site, the topic, popularity of keywords, etc
     
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    #13
    No, backlinks effect PR and PR is just a result of linkbuilding. Its an indicator. How can it effect anything?
     
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    Hey, did you know that 78.3% of all statistics quoted on the internet are complete bullsh!t and made up? :)
     
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    #15
    Absolutely. Well said.
     
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    #16
    Isn't that if you have high PR, the googlebot indexes your website deeper and therefore more pages are able to bring natural traffic?

    I disagree with you. High PR is essential for deep crawling. Without it, some pages won't be able to get retrieved with a search keyword. IMO.

    However, I agree with you about high SERPs and traffic. It's common sense though.
     
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    #17
    Backlinks help with deep crawling. PR increases as a result of backlinks. Thermometer does not make you warmer. Sun does.
     
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    #18
    I rank in 4 million results range top 5 with a pr 0 blogspot blog, and i did not spend any money on building links.
    I outrank many pr3,4,5, and even 6 sites.
    So pr does NOT matter if you know SEO.
     
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    #19
    PR is a major ranking factor In Google. You can actually get a blank page to rank with proper internal linking and a few relevant incomming links with some PR
     
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    #20
    This is largely true. Causation and effect relationship. I know that, but I was limiting the scope of that conversion solely to PageRank as an effect of a causation process thus limiting confusion ;)
     
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