Terrorism is a word that they use to create fear.

I'm asking because I'm trying to understand it..
I have asked a question thrice, expected that someone would answer it.
But I didn't get the answer..

People often claim that Bush administration created false sense of fear in American people.
Obviously someone will ask - How did they do so?

So then they claim that to create this fear they did 9/11 and blamed it on terrorists. Then raised false alarm time to time, to keep the sense of fear alive. They imprisoned 'innocent' people on the name of terrorism(citing the news of Jose Padilla)

Then people ask what is the purpose?
So then they claim the purpose was to invade ME, for Oil, to threaten the Muslims in ME, to make the Israel strong and to take away the freedom and rights of American people.

Now, I can digest invading ME for Oil, Threatening Muslims in ME, making Israel strong, But what I don't understand is, What is the purpose of taking the rights and freedom away from Americans?

Then they claim it is to hide their misdeeds, what they have done on 9/11 and after that in America, Iraq and Afghanistan...

But then, A dictator doing so makes sense, why would Bush administration do so, since they know that their term is limited for mere 4 years.
They cant take the right to vote away from Citizens, can they? and once they are out of the power no matter what laws they made to hide their misdeeds, the new Govt can disable those acts. The new administration can inquire about their deeds and if found guilty, can bring them to justice..


So can you help me to make sense out of this mess??

 

Bush truly s*cks as a president and I think its fairly obvious that his administration used fear for political gain. But you are an idiot if you believe they caused this "mess".

Its the nature of the beast for them to want more power. All governments do. What dont you get about that? Fairly simple, no?

"They cant take the right to vote away from Citizens, can they? and once they are out of the power no matter what laws they made to hide their misdeeds, the new Govt can disable those acts. The new administration can inquire about their deeds and if found guilty, can bring them to justice.."

That sounds awfully Pollyanna-ish to me. You expect another administration to prosecute this one...come on.

 

so I guess you would rather have tax increases than tax cuts? Do those tax cuts help him to suck?

 

What is the purpose of of making new laws to take away the rights and freedom from Americans?
Want more power?? for what?
No it's not that fairly simple as you may think...

Why not? If they are so evil that they did what happened on 9/11...Are you trying to say that Democrats would not want to punish the culprits behind 9/11

(I'm only assuming that 9/11 was an insider job as claimed by Some people)

 

Yes, those cuts do. The people helped by it- dont need the help anyway.

 

The people helped by it was majorly small business...of which I am an owner...would you rather have the govt paying for all your stuff, or allow small business to thrive? You sound very socialist to me, I bet you love shrillary clinton.

 

The people that think 911 was an inside job are not worth discussing. They should figure out what color the aliens in area 51 are first.
A previous administration will never be prosecuted, by an incoming one. See watergate. Will some laws be changed? Sure, if the incoming party has the votes to repeal them. Or they go in front of a sympathetic judge that rules them unconstitutional.

The purpose of changing some laws to "screw Americans" is to help other Americans. Maybe, just not as many. Think 21st century Upton Sinclair's Jungle. Uber-capitalism...etc etc

 

But than again at what cost? No government gave out anything for FREE? They cut the taxes so that people would be less agitated from the ill effects of the war.

Even here where I came from, the government issue the citizen with money before they start to increase our taxes, raise the government affiliated employees wages and ultimately raise their own coffers while we continue to work until we exhaust our natural life and hopefully go to where our religion promise us

 

HA HA HA HA HA..
That made my day.... Thanks for the laugh..

 

This is actually the second time I have seen a very good post from you eek and I will attempt an answer.

You certainly don't seem to be as much of a dumbass as the other members in the "crazy gang."

The clue is in this quote of yours:

You may occasionally see me saying both parties (Dems and Reps) are "Two cheeks of the same arse."

By that I mean that the Illuminati (a very powerful group of extremely wealthy people) that are controlling idiots like Bush have no political allegiance at all, whoever is in power it is irrelevant, as long as the agenda is followed.

So your question of "why would Bush administration do so, since they know that their term is limited for mere 4 years" is a very good question, but when it becomes clear that these utter Illuminati scumbags control whoever is in power it is clear that the Republicans having whatever time they have left in power is totally irrelevant.

Hillary will be equally as bad a President as Bush, obviously she is not as thick as Bush but the damage that his corrupt cabal has done will not be undone, the overall agenda will be followed. As I have said before things are not going to get better any time soon.

One good thing that will come out of Hillary taking over is that people like me, GTech and d16man will have one thing in common, we will all be bashing Hillary together!

I might even get an honorary invite to be in the crazy gang where I will of course feel the benefit of some green rep loving!

 

You are an owner of a small biz. Congrats. My family has a small biz as well. Govt paying for my stuff? like what---education, health care- blah blah. Health care maybe. Public schools are fine- assuming you live in an unbelievably wealthy area. Hospitals suck generally...unless you can go to one of the big name place$.

Clinton? I like her better than Rudy. Do you want for a Pres.(Romney) a guy who is going to tell us about the lost Mormon tribe in the mid-west speaking a semitic tongue before the Pyramids? If he thinks thats true, cool. All the power to him. Dont know much re: Law and Order guy.

look P.Buchannon for a close resemblance of my views. quite conservative or indifferent to most matters.

 

is that why several of the biggest and best hospitals in SC are NON FOR PROFIT?? Because they suck? My wife works at a hospital, and it is wonderful. She gets and gives great care, has good medical insurance, and loves her job.

Govt. doesn't pay for healthcare unless you are on medicare/medicaid or a govt employee...The govt is so big that it can't even handle those appropriately, what makes you think they could handle socialized healthcare? Also, I think I just read somewhere that Australia (or was it Austria, I have to find that article) is doing away with their socialized healthcare because it doesn't work...lets get people to quit smoking and lose weight and see how well that benefits the healthcare system...then lets get rid of all the trial lawyers that sue for a bizzilion $$ over a hot cup of coffee and see how that effects our insurance and malpractice insurance.

I prefer newt myself...but Romney will be the one I vote for unless the pool changes...

 

You wanted to know why they would use the word... I used this analogy to explain it:

 

I have read your analogy before, it doesnt sate 'why' it states 'how'
Why would the security guard want to raise a false alarm?
To create 'informational dependence'? What is the sole purpose of creating 'informational dependence'?
When you talk about United State president, the whole world listen to him when he speaks. So much spending, so much risk, Just for mere 'informational dependence'?? It doesn't make sense, does it? Or is there something my dumb brain is missing?

And again you ignored the real question I was asking..
Although Roar and AGS tried to answer that question, do you agree with them? Specially with AGS.

If not, then whats your opinion?

 

You're right. And it should.

Those thinking they are invincible or there is no threat are the next victims.

 

By "scaring" the American public, the politicians know they are creating a situation where the population will view them as the ones trying to protect us; and now that they scared us, we want them to keep us updated... Giving the politicians more control... The American public will listen more carefully, and is more willing to take advice, and possibly even "obey", if they are scared enough at the threat...

 

But it's not working this way, is it?
How does making laws that limit the rights of American people would help to achieve that goal? It would outrage the people, and it is doing so, as I see several posts in P&R complaining about it..

Plus it's not much beneficiary if the term of politicians are limited to mere 4 years. So do you agree to AGS that both Democrats and Republicans are after this drama? Because if not, then what would the 'Control' do good once you're out of the power?

There should be some tremendous gain.. more than the presidency of United States to create such fuss, because Bush knew it's his 2nd term, the last term. He cant be president again. People do not approve his administration, plus the Congress is controlled by the Democrats. Then making such laws do not help him getting his approval rate high, does it?
There is a fat chance that Republicans will be in the power again.. So unless Democrats (read Entire US politics) is the part of the whole Drama, it doesn't make sense at all..

So if I believe that Administration is 'misusing' the word terrorism, then I think AGS is right. Its a mix Game of both Dems and Reps...

Do you agree??

 

Sound familiar? A nazi said that. I looks like America got more than the Nazi rocket scientists after the second world war, They also got the nazi tactics for making the idiot populus go along with whatever war or law change they want to announce.

 

Yes, it is... Working on more people then you'd expect... But there are some that are trying to bring this issue to attention of the American people.. Jon Stuart brings it up every once in a while in a comedic way, which helps a lot of people realize what's going on; even if it is just entertainment-news...

Which laws are you talking about?

They're not limited to 4 years... The president serves atleast 4 years (unless acted upon by an outside force... death/impeachment/incapacity...), and up to 8 years... Congressmen can serve many more years then that... Some server for decades, literally...

The "control" is a short term gain, with long-term ramifications for the political party as a whole...

There is... The amount of influence created using these "scare tactics" could be the deciding factor in a local election... possibly even a national election; stay tuned for another 15 months to find out

There's many reasons for the Bush administration to try and rally support...
1) he doesn't want to look bad in the history books
2) he wants enough support so the next president can't immediately withdrawal from Iraq, again, making him look bad
3) he may not be on the ballot, but quite a few other republicans will be
4) if he has a tad more support, he may be able to get some legislature passed

The dem's only have a small majority; enough to filibuster, but not enough to push through any bills they want...

It depends on the "spin"... There's always "spin"...

Example:
"We might be taking away a little personal privacy by listing to your phone calls, but we're doing it to save American lives by tracking (insert terrorist organization here...AQ/Hamas/PLO...)..."

The GOP will regain control one day, but not anytime soon (my opinion)

I'm not sure what you mean about "misusing" the word... And yes, both parties have used the T word (terrorism) to gain support, it's not just the GOP...