HINDUS : All religions are NOT equal

IT is HIGH time that my hindu brothers realise that, all religions are not equal. We heard from our ancestors, gandhi, nehru, ambdekar that all religions are equal. But its high time we speak OUT against who want to supress us. I want to tell you all that, muslims, christians have all their knives sharpened. While by saying all religions are equal, it feels good for our EGO. Hindusim doesnt have any dogma like all ISLAM and CHRISTIANITY has.
I want to have a serious debate on THIS. I dont want to get infractions, I will not speak against person, but just the religions itself! I hope to get my point across here.

 

Nobody wants to surpress hindus, So stop trying to jump in the victim bandwagon. Nobody cares about hindus.

 

I agree to disagree with you! nobody cares abt christianity, islam too. It doesnt mean I cant OPEN the eyes of many HINDU's here.

 

All religions are not equal..very true..
Every religion is different with different teaching.

But who is suppressing Hindus? And how?

 

People in india, arent getting their RIGHTS! People in india are BEING converted to Christianity and islam! Also hindu's created everything THIS world has, we created the numbers, we created the yoga, we created surgeries, we create astronomy, etc., before ANY civilization. I can PROVE with all the facts that WE ARE MORE INTELLIGENT than any of other religions and its time that world especially INDIA know that and prepare themselves against TERRORISM, CONVERSION OF RELIGION, etc.,

 

Sieg Heil

 

While some of what you say is true, people aren't being forced to convert. I personally think Hindu offers a pretty reasonable outlook - if Buddhism didn't exist I may very well be considered Hindu

Regardless, your claims of being more intelligent and such are contrary to all of the Dharmic principles as I understand them.

 

I want to start with the statement with this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

It says that gautama Buddha was a hindu, he was the founder of buddhism (which most eastern countries follow). Thats why the name "gautama-buddhism". I think gautama buddha was wrong! its only my opinion btw. You say my claims are contrary to all the dharmic priciples. Can You support your comment?

Also i want to add that christians are FORCEFULLY converting poor people from india, and showing them some MONEY and converting them into their religion, which i think is the most henious crime.

 

You are quite correct, I meant to say "the Dharmic principles as they apply to Buddhism." I'm honestly not very familiar with the Hindu religion and was under the impression that Hindu principles more closely resembled those of Buddhism then they do.

What do you think Gautama Buddha was wrong about?

 

Hindus in India aren't getting their rights.. its something new I have heard...
Got some examples of such?

Yes, but if anyone forcing them to convert, its Hindus. Mostly Tribal and scheduled caste people are being mass converted, but why? have you ever sit back and thought of that? Have you ever been among them? Have you ever tried to listen what they has to say?

Hindu's created everything his world has....WE ARE MORE INTELLIGENT than any of other religions
Thats a false statement.. We WERE more intelligent than any of other religion would be a closer statement to the truth..Yes ancient India has pretty good knowledge of many things..But if I conclude three most valuable contribution to the world by Ancient India, it would be,
1. The value of null (0, Zero)
2. Yoga and
3. Kamasutra

Mate, Hindus are lost, They are lost because they didn't care for their heritage. Do not blame other religion for the mess you have created by your own.

How many Hindus have knowledge of Vedas? compare that with the Christians having knowledge of Bible and Muslims having knowledge of Koran..

How many Hindus know are have interests in Sanskrit? One of the most organized and scientific language? Your heritage?
While 90% of Hindus are crazy about English, and have no or little interest in Sanskrit, how do you think your heritage will survive?

So forget about those old good days, when Hindu religion was shining.

 

already stated that!

I thought abt that. Christians have money that hindus here in india dont. thats why mass conversions are taking place!

i would like to recorrect my statement here " The modern world has been formed ONLY by the wisdom which Indians had" - I think this is much clearer to understand! Also the little list you made, can be so big that it has NO end - infinity (which also is indian contribution!

first paragraph is right. But we do blame other religions for that!

I have knowledge of vedas, i know sanskrit. Not many people know this, but i can make aware of them, iam doing that here! Also yes, people here are crazy about english as you say, but they it isnt that they dont follow their religion.

This is the main reason for my thread, I need to make indians feel that whatever you're doing is good, but its time you took more interest in the vedic literature, sanskrit and say NO to other religions and stand up for themselves.

 

believe it or not, iam trying to make a computer entirely from scratch, and i need people who are also well aware of sanskrit literature.. any body here?

 

Cant see....

So, Hindus do not care about those poor people untill Christian missionaries reach there and try to make their life better? What do Hinduism do for them? Nothing.. Big Zero.

Mate, I was associated with RSS, and I traveled some village to get to know why people are being converted, and try to convince them not to convert. but as soon as I reached there, I felt ashamed of my mission.

The village had no clinic, No school, no way of communication, nothing at all.
Christian missionary that was working there, opened a school, they convinced villagers to send their children to school. They opened a small clinic they provided them transport facility(a mini van). Once they did all this, then they ask them to convert. They first made their life better and then they ask them to convert.. You call it henious crime? I call it humanity..

Yeah those good old days.... Hindus do not care for their Heritage.. it's a shame..

Then you're an ostrich. You do not want to see the real problem but find it easy to play the blame game.. Get your head out of the sand..

I doubt, If you had knowledge of Vedas, Good enough knowledge, then you wouldn't be blaming religions. What is the religion? What is the Hinduism actually? do you know that.. I rather doubt..

The religion you see, is a whore, corrupt, Care for your culture, your heritage.. that would be enough to bring back the glory..

 

again.. 1) conversion of religion 2) terrorism mostly

What a coincidence! Iam in RSS too. Which city?

1) This present system(poor people) in india is NOT due to hinduism, this is the common misconception. I have a very good plan for this BTW.

2) Hinduism can do many things!

3) If you do something good, dont expect it back. Thats what christians are doing. They are giving money/ setting camps which is good, i dont say its wrong. But they give that expecting them to convert! This is what i dislike, and i think you agree with me! I still think its a henious crime. Its like giving money on interest.. those people are making them even poorer by making the conversion coz those missionaries will go away after conversions..

4) If i had the same chance to go to a village, i would be happy to tell them that dont convert! I may even k*ck some people converting them

I also think the same, but you have any idea bring back the heritage?

Iam not a expert! I takes more than a lifetime to TRUELY understand those advanced concepts!

Religion is all good for me. I care for my culture, heritage, but its time we get our message across other people in india

 

Also found some video's on youtube where RSS actually works more for the poor :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_hxQcWhfYY0

this is a 1st of 5 part series of the work done by rss.


Here is a christiam priest selling baptism certificates:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nkomR3ndjfg


Can you see who's actually working for the poor! But still i say RSS needs to improve!

 

Those are not associated with rights mates.
Following any religion IS the right of Indian people, They are free to decide which religion they want to follow..

Terrorism on the other hand, is not a violation of rights either, and it's not only Hindus that are affected with terrorism, the explosions in Mumbai and Delhi killed people of every religion(Including Muslims and Christians too).

Varansi and Delhi

It's good that you have plans and Hindu can do many things, But sadly they are not doing anything for now. Although RSS is helping people there and where they are helping people are not converting.. You provide them basic needs they would not convert.

Christians do not expect it back.. They do not force anyone to convert, people are willingly converting. I still work for them,
If you ask me it doesn't matter whether they convert or not, They do not leave their culture. They still follow all the Hindu rituals.. lol

Thats sad...

You cant bring back the heritage unless you start following what it teaches.
The Hindu heritage teaches to follow the path of peace and humanity..
And it doesn't include Kicking asses

Yes ofcourse.. But still we need to learn as much as we can..
Funny that vedas teach you the science of life. They teach how to lead an ideal life. They do not teach about religion as some people think..

Religion is nothing, but a way to bring people together.. What you see as Hinduism today is hardly Hinduism, it got so corrupted that it lost its original meaning.
Originally Hinduism wasn't about Worshiping Gods, but to follow humanity.
Sadly pundits twisted it so badly that It has lost it's meaning..

 

LOL, what is a christiam priest (or christian priest)? I have heard of catholic priests, but never a christian priest.

That video showed some guys who are obviously there to make money, nothing to do with Christianity, what is a certificate of baptism? Is that what you show God when you get to heaven to get in? LOL.

The things people do in religions are ridiculous. So many superstitions, man-made rituals, etc... that are laughable as well as scary that people follow these things.

How are the Christian Missionaries giving money for conversion? That makes absolutely no sense to a Christian - you can't buy or be bought as far as believing in Jesus as the Christ and Savior. I haven't seen any Christian missionaries leave an area after buying (this is cracking me up) people to convert either.

All missionaries I know or know of are still involved with the lives of those people who willingly, without being paid, accept Jesus as their savior. Usually they will train pastors in the area and support them financial if needed. Missionaries themselves are supported financially by other people are usually don't have a lot of money compared to if they stayed and worked in the U.S.

 

Just for the record, Catholics are Christian

 

They do not *give* money for conversion.. As I stated before, They go to some very backward villages, they provide them Education, Medical help, Transportation and also teach them about Christ and Christianity.
People who convert, convert willingly. No force whatsoever required.

 

No blunt force - that isn't to say that taking advantage of circumstance isn't force in itself.